caramall2 Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 If you have a dealer with some good techs (well even if you don't) I'd just bring it in...I dont think you can lose. As I noted, I had mine replaced (bad synchro). Any updates on this??? I got my car used and I'm experiencing the same thing... 3rd and 4th gear. Should I get a new tranny from the dealership??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbc84 Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 how fast is shifting too fast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_m Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 I've had difficulty fast shifting in 4th from the day I got the LGT, 150,000kms later things haven't changed one bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatsphere Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 I've started to have the same synchro problem from 3rd to 4th. I've been so Subaru and will be getting it replaced on Friday. I have about 46k miles on my LGT. I'm glad I got the 100k warranty. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatsphere Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Got my car back and it feels better than new! Took her up to Mount Palomar to test her out. Since there was no damage to my gears, Subaru covered the repair 100%. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlsb Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Take it easy on the sychro's will ya:lol::lol: "Belief does not make truth. Evidence makes truth. And belief does not make evidence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbc84 Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 I have heard of Short throw shifters causing syncro issues, is that true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlsb Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 I have heard of Short throw shifters causing syncro issues, is that true? Only when you smash the gear changes. "Belief does not make truth. Evidence makes truth. And belief does not make evidence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobE Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friviz68 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 i had the same problem mine would grind from 5th to 4th dealership replace all the syncros and my 5th gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friviz68 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 thank good for the 100,000 mile warenty iv used it to the fullest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I have had this a few times recently, its only when I'm driving hard, and its like I miss the shift (aka dont get the clutch in time) but last time it happened the clutch was to the floor and i had to go back to N and then go to 4th before it stopped whining. However its not really repeatable, for those of you who had it fixed did you have to get it to the point where it would happen on a regular basis and was repeatable? If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caramall2 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Mine was repeatable....every time from what I recall. I thought synchro problems usually showed up when down shifting , not upshifting, but I'm not smart on this. Anyway, I had downshifting problems and it turned out to be a bad 4th gear syncro (I had to double clutch to keep it at bay). Dealer replaced under warrantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flatsphere Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Mine was repeatable when shiting over 5500 rpm. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Mine was repeatable when shiting over 5500 rpm. Cheers! Thanks I think mine may just be a fluke then, i'll check on the way home If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSPRO Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 I took my car in for this very same issue on Monday. They said something about lubing the ball at the bottom of the shifter and bending some tab, then told me to try that out. It took about 2 mins from the dealership to the on ramp to the highway for me to see it was still there. I am really glad that I found this thread so now I know Im not the only one. Amy 04 FXT vf39 5mt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6thGear Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I am having this problem now, again at 39,000 miles. I had it a year ago, but it went away when I had a specialty shop in Toronto put in their special Subaru tranny "juice". Maybe over the winter I didn't notice anything with the OE shifter back in, but once things warmed up again, the problem reappeared. Until the fluids warm up, there is no issue going 3-4, but once everything is warm, a 3-4 shift, even under light throttle at anything around or above 50 mph brings some unwanted noise. Off to the dealer, I guess, as I am still under powertrain warranty. I want to get this dealt with before some more events/track days or something goes seriously wrong. "Make your car work better or go faster. Do that, or it's Bling. Bling is not fast. Bling is added weight. So Bling is Sh!t." - Tom Hnatiw, Car Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v33k Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Same problem here. 6000km ago Highspeed 3rd to 4th, grind everytime. Symptom is gone after a fluid change. 1qt of Shockproof lightweight + 75W90NS mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianspi Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I'm having the same issue at 3,000ish rpms. I've been running redline 75w90ns for the past 30,000 miles. The fluid in there now is under 3000 miles old. v33k, is the grind still gone? I may try removing a quart of redline and adding the shockproof. enough zip ties and duct tape will fix anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6thGear Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 45,000 miles now. I followed the dealer's recommendation of RedLine and Shockproof (which they did so that it was recorded on the service log for Subaru) just after my last post. That really improved matters, but there was still some grinding at the top of 3rd gear. I think there was a correlation to being on the GP track at Mosport. Since there shouldn't be any grinding at all, the car went in to have warranty work done. The dealer reported that the 3-4 synchro was "sticking". Everything was done under warranty. I decided to take advantage of Subaru paying for all the labour and have the dealer put in a new clutch assembly. I am having to get used to the new clutch feel, as it bites sooner, but feels great. "Make your car work better or go faster. Do that, or it's Bling. Bling is not fast. Bling is added weight. So Bling is Sh!t." - Tom Hnatiw, Car Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Try Extra-S and stop f***** around with cocktails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v33k Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I'm having the same issue at 3,000ish rpms. I've been running redline 75w90ns for the past 30,000 miles. The fluid in there now is under 3000 miles old. v33k, is the grind still gone? I may try removing a quart of redline and adding the shockproof. Update after 6 months. It was -10F last few days here. No signs of 4th gear grind, and same effort as stock getting into 1st gear during cold. This cocktail works well for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkel33leg05 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 besides the synrco the cone clutches aka blocker rings could be worn down. say your in 3rd gear. The shaft is locked to 3rd gear and spining at that speed. when you go to shift into 4th gear, 4th gear is not going to be at the same speed. The cone clutches are there to eaither speed up the gear or slow down the gear to spin at the same speed as the shaft. Most of the time when the syncro is bad you will have a pop out condition. With a bad cone clutch you will get a block out condition. I dont think anyone said that couldnt get into the gear but im just sharing some info. Back to the syncro I just rebulit my transmission and subaru uses some odd keyways for the syncro hub. Someone wrote in here subaru said the syncro was sticking i could see that happing easily if the keyways got moved even just a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caramall2 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I actually did have my 4th gear synchro go bad fairly early on at about 20k...dealer replaced. Fortunately they had a real good trans guy on staff--he was surprised to see 4th gear go (I guess the lower gears are usually the problem), but after one drive, he was fairly confident that was the problem...sure enough, it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 ^ I believe whitetiger had also only 4th syncro problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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