LegacyGTBiggie Posted September 29, 2010 Author Share Posted September 29, 2010 what about blue waffles like you then Harry? Three fines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryN Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 what about blue waffles like you then Harry? Three fines? HAHAHA! Blue waffles?? Now that's a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyGTBiggie Posted September 29, 2010 Author Share Posted September 29, 2010 Google it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatsuDano Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 do not google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyGTBiggie Posted September 29, 2010 Author Share Posted September 29, 2010 LOL. I ahve avoided it thus far. No need to see it. Buy Harry might be INTo those sorts of things! TubGirl and 2girls1cup are his sort of thing! Its sick I know... but he likes it so leave him be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryN Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 do not google it. Oh believe me, any fetish that Josh has, and he tells me to Google it, I avoid it like the plague. :lol: He is the Lemonparty.org type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyGTBiggie Posted September 30, 2010 Author Share Posted September 30, 2010 WTF is that? Not going to look at it while I am at work for sure. We all know that Harry is just a little......................................................................OFF http://www.scenicreflections.com/ithumbs/Role%20Models%20-%20Movie%20Wallpaper%20-%2005.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyGTBiggie Posted September 30, 2010 Author Share Posted September 30, 2010 http://static.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/a-role-model.png http://www.moviewallpaper.net/wpp/Ken_Jeong_in_Role_Models_Wallpaper_2_800.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeondacouch Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 this law is retarded. who considers it dangerous to drive with a phone in your hand, but deems it perfectly safe if the phone is attached to your head? it's not the "holding the phone" that detracts from safe driving, it's the conversation itself. anyone heard of the laws that limit young drivers from driving with other teens in the car? that's not because they're holding hands, it's because interacting with a friend is a DISTRACTION. anyone who doesn't see/understand this is a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawdaddy79 Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 I disagree. 90% of the time I see someone doing something stupid, one hand is glued to their ear with a phone in it. The other 10% is an indeterminable combination of bluetooth users and people not on the cell phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyGTBiggie Posted September 30, 2010 Author Share Posted September 30, 2010 how about the people who use GPS systems. You can always tell who they are. wait until you hit a split in a road/highway. They are the ones making drastic moves from one side to the other about a mile before hand. Even if 2 of 4 lanes go to either direction they will "stay to the left" for that mile while doing 15 under. Distractions to driving is the problem. And I agree, like yelling at your 14th wellfare child about ho wmany slices of bread they are allowed to use before you beat them to a pulp is going to be any less of a distraction through a headset! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeondacouch Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 I hate GPS as well. I won't use one, and I despise riding with someone who is using one. It makes them drive like an idiot because they are relying on the machine instead of their mind/eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawdaddy79 Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 I rode with someone that actually drove using his Blackberry as a GPS device. It was horrible having to keep my mouth shut, because he was kind of my new boss for the week. He could barely see the screen and couldn't stay in lanes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeondacouch Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 On a related note, I've also noticed that the people who tend to be the most oblivious while talking on a phone/headset are women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 this law is retarded. who considers it dangerous to drive with a phone in your hand, but deems it perfectly safe if the phone is attached to your head? Nobody. I would also hope nobody would think it's NOT dangerous to do either. With that said, only one of those scenarios is even remotely enforceable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyGTBiggie Posted September 30, 2010 Author Share Posted September 30, 2010 Thats due to the TYPE of conversation they have! Typical Male Convo: Hey How are ya? Cool cool. Hey im heading home ill hit you up later. or Hey lets meet at _____ see you there! DONE over finished! Now I dont think there is enough space on this page to even paraphrase for most conversations women have while driving. But needless to say they get into who is fuckign who or who did what to them or to someone else that they have WAY too much of an opinion on. I think we shoudl come up with a way to make cellphones make women sterile! Keep these retards from making MORE retards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeondacouch Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Nobody. I would also hope nobody would think it's NOT dangerous to do either. With that said, only one of those scenarios is even remotely enforceable. I disagree. If I, as a normal driver, can easily pinpoint other drivers who are a risk because they're on the phone, why can't traffic officers? And if you use the argument that they'll "just hang up or put the phone down when they see a cop" then I have to ask you this: If they are paying enough attention to see the cop before he sees them on the phone, then aren't they paying enough attention to the road to be left alone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnAWD Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 I think this is a great idea, and can't wait until such a law shows up in my state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyGTBiggie Posted September 30, 2010 Author Share Posted September 30, 2010 Ive driven in Wisconsin(miluaukee) and all I can say phones are the least of your worries. Talk about imbred stoopidity at large. OMG driving there was scary!!!! And I drive in DC everyday! Stop lights on entrance ramps! A average Blood alcohol content of like.06 at 9am and .10 after noon! I was afraid for my life driving up there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 I disagree. If I, as a normal driver, can easily pinpoint other drivers who are a risk because they're on the phone, why can't traffic officers? Spotting them and making a citation stick are very different things. Ultimately this stuff has to get by a judge to have any effect. ...they'll "just hang up or put the phone down when they see a cop" There's nothing to put down when using a bluetooth headset or bluetooth enabled car. Burden of proof is on the officer.... Even the current incarnation is difficult to enforce without getting a subpoena for the phone records. At least the officer can say the unmistakably saw the driver actively using the device if the driver was using the handset. Without seeing it themselves, it's difficult if not impossible to "prove" if the driver was actually engaged with the device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeondacouch Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 That's all very true, but is a getting a conviction and collecting the fine really the motive behind the law? or is it simply getting people to drive more safely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 That's a stickier question. It's supposed to be a bit of both. The motive behind the THREAT of conviction for breaking any law at all is theoretically to persuade people to think twice about breaking said law. Carry a big stick, etc, etc. For a more practical take on actual motives for traffic laws, have a look at the traffic camera thread... As pertains to cell phone laws, there's no real reason for your average oblivious douchenozzle to bother putting the cell phone down if they know there's no way in hell it will be actively enforced. We all know there are plenty of laws broken every day that no remotely sane officer is going to bother taking the time to cite when they know it's just going to result in harassing the person being cited, followed by a slew of paperwork and court dates that are guaranteed to result in favor of perpetrator. Consequence free rules just don't have much effect for those who disagree with the rules in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherWarrior Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 As to the point about hand holding a cell phone versus not holding a cell phone being the same I disagree with. I've been chasing storms, operating radios and cell phones for years. Holding a cell phone is tons more dangerous than going to a head set or other no hands device. I have at times use the cell in hand while on the highway, but exclusively on empty highways because I know that drifting is possible and reaction time is significantly slowed. While I agree (as I have experienced) that even with hands free operation, the distraction of a call can be dangerous, it is far from the same as having a cell phone in hand. Bottomline: just limit your time on the phone period! Your life will not end if you ask some if you can call them back in a few minutes and then pull over. Add: I bet a more affective way to get people to stop talking while driving is for upgrading the highways (when space is available) with a full off spot for taking a call, looking at GPS, eating soup (which apparently causes more accidents than driving with a cell phone), etc. Not a complete rest stop, just a widen shoulder, include a separation wall if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Hang up and drive. When I see some one driving very badly, I ask myself , is this person totally stoned or on the phone ? They drive about the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted October 14, 2010 I Donated Share Posted October 14, 2010 I rode with someone that actually drove using his Blackberry as a GPS device. It was horrible having to keep my mouth shut, because he was kind of my new boss for the week. He could barely see the screen and couldn't stay in lanes. I use GPS on my cell phone occasionally. I tend to do it only when I'm incredibly lost or need to divert on the spur of the moment -- I much prefer printed Google Maps directions. Either way, I may glance at the screen every once in a while, but mostly I rely on the audible directions. I'm happy about this law. I wish it was a primary offense, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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