m sprank Posted October 8, 2010 Author Share Posted October 8, 2010 Bryan (BNR) must be very pleased with the popularity of his turbo offerings. I am glad this thread is helping those that make the jump to stage3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSpeed Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 (edited) So I have a question, Bryan mandates the FP STI oil line now.. have the turbo out, looking at installing that... it says I need to connect it to the AVCS banjo bolt... I don't see any way to easily get to that.. I always thought that was under the timing belt? EDIT: never mind, I'm an idiot, oil line replaced... Edited October 18, 2010 by SSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted October 18, 2010 Author Share Posted October 18, 2010 Glad you figured it out. On the 05-06 it is easy. Banjp bolt is located on motor right next to turbo. On 07-09 bolt is located under the inlet. FP line is a PAIN to install. 90 deg fitting hits inlet. Can be done. Requires patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCwagon Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 I just, over the last three days, installed my bnr 16G, injectors, fuel pump, new pcv system, spark plugs. It went fairly well, besides dropping a hose in the downpipe (doh). I did learn some things along the way. The first thing I figured out is that an O2 sensor socket works great to press sidefeed injectors in evenly. I also learned that it is a good idea to replace the crush washers on the oil feed banjo fitting (where the screen is) otherwise you can get a massive leak . My wrapped up-pipe is still smoking from the oil. Overall a pretty easy job if you go slow and steady. Thanks MSPRANK for all the pictures and instructions and overall support on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 28, 2010 Author Share Posted December 28, 2010 Glad it was a success. No matter what mistakes were made, you learn. Bet you wont make them again. Plus, now you have a new confidence about working on your own car and what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subadozer Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Mine arrived yesterday. Thanks Bryan for the Merry Christmas. Got notice today that the gaskets are on the way from Mike. Since I can't think of a place I can safely do my data logging for an e-tune I now just need to decide on a tuner and a time to start turning wrenches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Post #3, Picture #2.... VF46 on the right and the BNR turbo on the left... The housings are not the same - they are similar, but not identical. What gives? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 46 and 40 housings are different (side-by-side) from all the other pictures I've seen. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 (edited) If that's the case, I'd much rather have the 40, because it clearly has bigger diameter tubing for flow... strictly speaking of the housing. Edited December 30, 2010 by dr_sharp lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimakf7 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 the vf46 housing was redisgned to be more efficient with the flow within the turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 But Bryan at BNR feels the VF-40 flows better. Hence his request for VF-40's as cores. He will build a VF-46, but his standard is a VF-40 housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Completely understandable just looking at the 2 above. That's good to know for those looking to go BNR... all of the sudden blown VF40 prices double on the LGT forums... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 the vf46 housing was redisgned to be more efficient with the flow within the turbo. I note that the VF-40 has quite a large (volume) compressor housing given the dimensions of it's wheel. Compare for example with the TD04L-13T... very similarly dimensioned wheel in a much smaller housing. The VF-46 housing is probably better suited to the factory wheel... the MHI wheels that Bryan is cramming in there... not so much. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 Bryan did his homework. The MHI wheels are working very nicely in the VF-40 housings. Surprisingly I have seen prices of blown VF-40's drop. I paid $100 each for 2 cores earlier this year. I now see blown VF-40's for as low as $30 delivered on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Y'know, the more I look at the housings the more the VF-46 looks like the TD04-14T compressor. Who has had the VF-40 and VF-52 housings side by side for a comparo? I bet they are very close. Remember that Subaru very often make changes to things that don't hurt performance, but are done more to improve fuel efficiency, decrease emissions or improve driveability. They have the habit of keeping the same power output over several model years but lowering the revs at which it's delivered. That is very often a move which makes the powertrain less easy to extract more performance from. IMO the move from the VF-40 to the VF-46 was one of these moves. In terms of being mod or tuner friendly it's probably a step backwards. Don't get hung up on wanting to keep the VF-46 because it's a newer design. Newer isn't always better. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berkshire40 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Bryan did his homework. The MHI wheels are working very nicely in the VF-40 housings. Surprisingly I have seen prices of blown VF-40's drop. I paid $100 each for 2 cores earlier this year. I now see blown VF-40's for as low as $30 delivered on eBay. Found mine for $50 I was happy with that Cant wait to get the 16g up and running Mod list & photos _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Y'know, the more I look at the housings the more the VF-46 looks like the TD04-14T compressor. Who has had the VF-40 and VF-52 housings side by side for a comparo? I bet they are very close. Here you go, VF-52 next to a VF-40 from 3GWRX.com http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/collegemt/100_1485.jpg http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/collegemt/100_1488.jpg http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/collegemt/100_1489.jpg http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r358/collegemt/100_1490.jpg My money is still on the BNR turbo (with MHI running gear) over either of the these two VFs. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 What's up with the 52 in those pictures??? Looks like dents??? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Everyone has commented on that. Guess there were some fitment issues on the original, given the larger sizing, so they just hammered it to get the mold the way they wanted. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBrett Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I created a printable word doc of this install with each step and corresponding picture on it's own page, along with some tips and questions/answers from this thread. Feel free to grab it if you prefer printouts vs getting your laptop dirty BNR_turbo_install.doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 Very nice work sir! Thank you. Installing a BNREVO16G in a customers car tomorrow. Stock LGT. Maybe I will try and add some pix and insight to this thread when I knock out that install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBrett Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I needed it cause I'm prepping myself to do that very same thing tomorrow, on my stock LGT, as you, BNR, and my bank account very well know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m sprank Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 Sounds like fun. If you were local we could have a turbo swap party, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 We replaced Smitty's turbo last weekend, procedures are spot-on. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 BTW - has anyone used the stock heat shielding on a BNR turbo and if so, how much cutting was required to make it fit? - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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