SoldonSubie Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/subaru-of-america-inc-reports-best-october-ever-with-a-41-percent-sales-gain-68914277.html Legacy up 112% and Outback up 175%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Not only up big... but the best October in the company's history. Subaru will break their yearly record this year i'm sure. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 it's amazing what advertising will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BagheeraLGT Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 i think its more the mainstream redesign than advertising. theyve always had commercials and advertising campaigns. the difference is that they are marketing a more 'mainstream' vehicle for the North American masses. Bigger bodied sedans and alternative small & crossover suvs are whats in now. subaru, unfortunately for those of us who realize that their previous generation was much better (or at least much better looking), downshifted design gears and is now realizing higher rpms (sales). ill be happy if they use their newfound profit to mass produce the Trax Sti for public purchase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway Star Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 It's the mainstream design that got me to buy it. Mainly the larger size and AWD without the weight. I'm new to the fold so I'm not a sensative to the unpopular changes. But there are only a few choices in the AWD sedan category at the price point of the Legacy. Without the AWD, I would have made another choice. That is probably why SOA worked towards a price point and cut in some areas so they could offset the AWD cost disadvantage. I keep hearing about the uglification of the Legacy. But I hear that about half of the time when a car gets a major redesign. Then the eye and mind adjust and they look normal while the previous generation looks dated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest heightsgtltd Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 It's a mix of the two. The design now appeals to everyman, and they are putting a little money behind the marketing. Let's get real though, the 112% increase was from 1,538 to 3,254 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigT Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 That's pretty legit for them! 112% is pretty big time (although the numbers of cars aren't that huge). let's get real... They made the cars bigger and now they are selling big. Looks like at this rate we'll all be driving hummers in 25 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest heightsgtltd Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I got real at 9:17, then you followed at 9:49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 October sales for other low volume sedans 2009 vs 2008 +112.0% 3,254/1,538 Legacy -20.3% 3,016/3,784 A4 -26.4% 2,975/4,040 Mazda6 -44.2% 2,512/4,340 TL -07.5% 2,448/2,647 G37 Sedan +20.2% 2,298/1,844 TSX +61.9% 811/501 Volvo S40 -46.8% 471/886 Passat whether by volume or performance... that's a healthy gain. *edit messed up the TSX number... it should be a positive. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest heightsgtltd Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Fair enough especially considering the economy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 also... the Impreza number is a typo and should be a typo we sold more in Oct 2009 (3049) versus Oct 2008 (2891) *edit looks like the press release has the right numbers but the wrong % still. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Congrats Subaru.... "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ in PA Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 If only they managed to do it without making the Legacy so darn ugly in the process! Good for Subaru, but sorry, I can't stay on the bandwagon. When I replace my '07 Legacy, it'll be with something a lot sleeker and better looking than the 2010 Legacy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoldonSubie Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 If only they managed to do it without making the Legacy so darn ugly in the process! Good for Subaru, but sorry, I can't stay on the bandwagon. When I replace my '07 Legacy, it'll be with something a lot sleeker and better looking than the 2010 Legacy! Going from a 2.5i and if you are willing to accept FWD or even RWD you'll have many options. Even at Subaru not all owners will be repeat buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ in PA Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 I hope to be able to upgrade to something along the lines of a BMW 328xi by the time I'm ready for my next car. Or, I'll consider another Legacy if by that time it's undergone another redesign, and isn't so ugly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoldonSubie Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 I hope to be able to upgrade to something along the lines of a BMW 328xi by the time I'm ready for my next car. Or, I'll consider another Legacy if by that time it's undergone another redesign, and isn't so ugly! The 328xi was on my short list this time around. I want MT with AWD and prefer a turbo or supercharger as I live at a decent elevation (6500). This worked against the 328xi as it was just plain slow. For that reason I also looked at the 335xi and the a4 2.0t as well. MT’s, while offered, are very hard to find with those makes. One dealer had 74 A4’s and no mt’s! The 328xi is nice but very cramped and spartan. A $35K base gets up into the low mid $40’s pretty quickly. Of course some people actually like vinyl seats! Another option would be a WRX. Spec one out size and space wise and you’ll find that it is right there with your 2.5i and the 3 series. If I didn’t like the 10 LGT when it came out I would have given serious thought to the wrx. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naimouasta Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 i think a lot of it has been marketing, especially since the new forester came out. i mean really, when was the last time you ever seen a commercial for the previous gen legacy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ in PA Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Is a 328 more cramped than my '07 Legacy? I like the size of my Subie. I'm pretty sure the 3 Series still has a couple of things that I'd miss on the 2010 Legacy, including a real parking brake handle (rather than a stupid e-brake button on the dash), a coolant temp gauge, and folding side mirrors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoldonSubie Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Is a 328 more cramped than my '07 Legacy? I like the size of my Subie. I'm pretty sure the 3 Series still has a couple of things that I'd miss on the 2010 Legacy, including a real parking brake handle (rather than a stupid e-brake button on the dash), a coolant temp gauge, and folding side mirrors. I put 2 to 3 kids in my back seat and the 3 series was a bit of a squeeze compared to my 05 OBXT. The parking brake thing is a sad reality. The a4 has the same e brake. As a matter of fact the 3 series is the only awd/MT car that still has a parking brake you can manually lift up. Saab’s don’t count as the only thing worse than their reliability is their resale value. Seriously, manually lifted parking brakes are going away and that makes me sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserpro2 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 congrats SOA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 it's amazing what advertising will do I think word of mouth has something to do with it too...I meet Subaru owners all the time and I have yet to find one who wouldn't reccomend a Subaru to a friend. New owners, old owners, all seem to want another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean2009 Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Is a 328 more cramped than my '07 Legacy? I like the size of my Subie. I'm pretty sure the 3 Series still has a couple of things that I'd miss on the 2010 Legacy, including a real parking brake handle (rather than a stupid e-brake button on the dash), a coolant temp gauge, and folding side mirrors. I like the electronic parking brake because I no longer worry about forgot releasing parking brake before driving away. Some people have very bad experience driving a car with parking brake on. Finally, you can still drift a car without using a parking brake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 I like the electronic parking brake because I no longer worry about forgot releasing parking brake before driving away. Some people have very bad experience driving a car with parking brake on. Finally, you can still drift a car without using a parking brake. There is already an idiot light on the dash with manual parking brake. Seriously are there bigger idiots out there for whom this is not enough? What else you don't want to worry about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSniper Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 thing is you cant use the ebrake as an emergency brake anymore thats what people are griping about, besides if you wanted to drift i think an AWD car would be the last thing t ge ton the list lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 thing is you cant use the ebrake as an emergency brake anymore thats what people are griping about, besides if you wanted to drift i think an AWD car would be the last thing t ge ton the list lol Yes, also traditional parking brake is accessible to the passenger and is simply more reliable. There as absolutely no reason or benefit for this bullshit and it's a safety hazard. I despise all the "cool" features that do nothing except compromising safety and adding complexity. Another example is push button start that eliminates a simple mechanical instantaneous way to shut down the engine. Something that should be banned since it already claimed lives. Luckily due to cost savings, SOA didn't bring this crap from JDM land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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