05GT Guru Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 True, not to mention they rev to 9k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 That always helps. and the more rev you can do, the more a well asperated intake and exhaust helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one69chev Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Not if its auto ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 If the 2.5i is auto then it has the weakass 4eat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 its the same 4eat in the 02-07 wrx. It can hold the power, the gearing just sucks big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one69chev Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 If the 2.5i is auto then it has the weakass 4eat mine was an auto, and i didn't have any durability issues, but it was def no speed demon.....:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 It was probably faster than my 5eat..... FOR REALZZZZZZZZZZZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoozeRS05 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I know a guy with a 2005 Impreza RS 4eat (same trans), he seriously beats the $h!t out of it.. EB's Subaru journal - 2005 LegacyGT Wagon & 2014 Forester FB25 (2008 specB - RIP) IG@legacygtliving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Most people who care about performance and have a 4eat do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkOblivion000 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 What? We lose out to Mazda3's? No way... More low end torque? Best advice for a 2.5i owner: Avoid 2.5 Altimas, Mazda3s, 4-cylinder Accords and pretty much anything else in or out of your vehicle class at stoplights. Slowzilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORULZleggy Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 What? We lose out to Mazda3's? No way... More low end torque? Sh*T those others car would not stand a chance on the back roads, AWD FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 The mazda 3 only weights 2800lbs, thats almost 600lbs lighter than a 2.5i and the make simular power and a simular powerband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adidasoutback Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 The mazda 3 only weights 2800lbs, thats almost 600lbs lighter than a 2.5i and the make simular power and a simular powerband You need to get some facts straight on this. First a Mazda 3 weight is relative to model and the 2.3i which has 150 hp and a 140 tq weights more like 2900lbs and the outback or legacy weight is about 3200 making it a 300lb diff not a 600 lb one, and on top of that, they legacy turns out 170 hp and 170 tq. I can tell you myself a mazda 3 wont beat a outback 2.5i nor should it. Weight is relative if you have A. more traction being awd, and B. more tq and power. You may have a modded turbo legacy and have 1600 post but a mazda 3 on its best day does not weigh 600lbs less then a legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milescj70 Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Cobb cams, engine management, EL headers, catless midpipe, intake, CBE & every other bolt on available should put you around 170 whp @ 5500rpms.. It's not worth it.. FYI, the drivetrain & suspension are the same LGT to 2.5i, as well as the interior in most cases.. the 2.5i is 173 with out the Turbo....So I think what some of us X-Volvo S70 T5 owners thinks a low boost turbo offered by Subaru would be nice as another class of Legacy BUTT; The fact is we bought the N/A's for a reason....but would like to find the most LOW COST BUTT MOST INCREASE solution out there? would it be the ECU reprogrammed or the Intake?. Thanks TEAM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryouske Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 So much NA hate. I love my 2.5i and I know it's not for power. If I wanted power I could trade it in for a LGT but everyone has there reasons for buying a NA rather than a turbo, it scares some people. If you really looking for power trade it in, if your looking for a couple of things to improves its handling and a couple other small things then the NA threads are for you. I'm in an NA and I love it, no matter how slow it is... which in my opinion it isn't that bad going from a 96 Legacy L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttlejockey Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 You need to get some facts straight on this. First a Mazda 3 weight is relative to model and the 2.3i which has 150 hp and a 140 tq weights more like 2900lbs and the outback or legacy weight is about 3200 making it a 300lb diff not a 600 lb one, and on top of that, they legacy turns out 170 hp and 170 tq. I can tell you myself a mazda 3 wont beat a outback 2.5i nor should it. Weight is relative if you have A. more traction being awd, and B. more tq and power. You may have a modded turbo legacy and have 1600 post but a mazda 3 on its best day does not weigh 600lbs less then a legacy. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=136426 the 2010 Mazda 3 will weigh between 58 and 111 pounds more than the current car. A Mazda 3 s equipped with the automatic transmission weighs 3,025 pounds, which is not a small number in the compact sedan category. The big news, of course, is the addition of the 2.5-liter engine to the Mazda 3 model mix. Once it's installed in the Mazda 3, this 2.5-liter MZR inline-4 is rated at 167 horsepower and 168 pound-feet of torque — a bump of 11 hp and 18 lb-ft over the former 2.3-liter mill. It's also 28 hp and 40 lb-ft more than the Honda Civic's 1.8-liter inline-4. You 2.5i guys are going to get owned. That Mazda 3 is a chick car though. Gay guys and chicks drive them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORULZleggy Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Traded my STI for this 2.5i, and I love it. Just throw some swaybars on the car and have some back road fun. hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkOblivion000 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Damn that 2010 Mazda3 looks good... But at the time when I was comparing 2008 models, I remember the 2.5i putting out slightly more hp than the Mazda3. Also, the 2.5i was roomer and honestly, better looking (I think the 08 Mazda3 looks like a short fat little piglet). Also, everyone and their mothers (especially their mothers) drives a Mazda3 now... and I wanted something no one I knew had. The 2010 Mazda3 is really irrelevant to this discussion. If you really wanted to compare 2010 models... http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=126468 "The 2.0-liter naturally aspirated unit is expected to generate 200 horsepower". Also, for us NA drivers that are looking for a power increase, telling us to upgraded to a LGT isn't really constructive. We're obviously not looking to blow like 5k trading it in and getting a LGT, or else we would have already and wouldn't be here asking you guys. The point is I wouldn't mind blowing a couple hundred bucks for an intake and an ECU reflash or remap, if I knew what kind of power increase it had. And that's why we're asking if anyone knows. [/rant] http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=136426 You 2.5i guys are going to get owned. That Mazda 3 is a chick car though. Gay guys and chicks drive them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttlejockey Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 If you really wanted to compare 2010 models... http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=126468 The 2.0-liter naturally aspirated unit is expected to generate 200 horsepower while the 2.5-liter turbo model will produce over 300 hp. In order to reduce emissions and improve fuel efficiency, two notoriously weak areas for Subaru, engineers are working on a continuously variable transmission in addition to the standard five-speed automatic. With the 3.0-liter model discarded, we have it on good authority that Subaru is seriously considering adding a hot Legacy STI to the mix further down the road — a sedan destined to get a turbocharged version of the company's current 3.7-liter engine that will reportedly pump out upwards of 430 hp. Hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 You realize that you folks are arguing about how fast a Mazda 3 is..... My Echo can kick your ass! Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Lol, the 2.5i guys need someone to race. You right the mazda 3 only has a 300lbs weight advantage and the legacy has 15hp and 25trq advantage. If you were to race one from a dig you 2.5i guys would probably win but form a roll it would be close. You have a SLIGHT power advantage and they have 300lbs weight advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawl Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 You realize that you folks are arguing about how fast a Mazda 3 is..... My Echo can kick your ass! what engine swap have you done to your echo? car for sale. PM me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 No comment Though obviously it would need a lot to keep up with a 3 Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbite3360 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Don't forget not only is it better bang for your buck, you get a much better interior, springs, drive train etc. etc. Uhh, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttlejockey Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Uhh, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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