KartRacerBoy Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 How do you feel about the BRZ? Isn't that the 2 door coupe built with Toyota? If so, from what I've read it doesn't have a lot of electronic intervention. I've read mixed reviews of it, but it's good looking, has sufficient power, rwd. Kinda like the modern version of the 240SX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Oh? Where did you read a bad review about the BRZ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Oh? Where did you read a bad review about the BRZ? Can't remember, might've been Grassroots Motorsport magazine, but from what I've read, it certainly hasn't gotten rave reviews. A good car, but just not a great car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 The worst cars in the world Christmas special of top gear reviewed the Toyota variant of it. Clarkson tracked it and mentioned, though it lacked power, the bicycle tire wheels made for a fun drive, due to the lack of grip and light weight of the car. http://www.bbcshop.com/top-gear-store/top-gear-the-worst-car-in-the-history-of-the-world-blu-ray/invt/2ebd0214/ Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Can't remember, might've been Grassroots Motorsport magazine, but from what I've read, it certainly hasn't gotten rave reviews. A good car, but just not a great car. From what I've read, it has earned all kinds of awards including at least a couple car of the year deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 The worst cars in the world Christmas special of top gear reviewed the Toyota variant of it. Clarkson tracked it and mentioned, though it lacked power, the bicycle tire wheels made for a fun drive, due to the lack of grip and light weight of the car. http://www.bbcshop.com/top-gear-store/top-gear-the-worst-car-in-the-history-of-the-world-blu-ray/invt/2ebd0214/ That's pretty much every review. Underpowered, still a favorite. "Driver's car" gets mentioned more than a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 That's pretty much every review. Underpowered, still a favorite. "Driver's car" gets mentioned more than a lot. I think I said that. Good, not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisty Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 i thought the brz/frn was touted as the starting point for modders? they set up a good foundation with "room to build" for enthusiasts. there was one out last time i went to track nite, it definitely wasnt stock and it was fairly impressive. the car was a sponsored car tho, not a street amateur. it had full wrap graphics and all, looked silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Fan Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I tried one out at the dealership when I was buying my new Legacy....perfect car if you have latent "Boy racer" tendencies and are no more than 5'6" tall....at 6'1" it was a real test just getting in and out. Reminded me of a Miata with a coupe body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I think I said that. Good, not great. Fair enough. I interpret "mixed reviews" to mean good and bad as opposed to good and great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfoyle Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Wasn't the Toyota variant (GT-86) Clarkson's car of the year?! Is there much/any difference between it and the BRZ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I tried one out at the dealership when I was buying my new Legacy....perfect car if you have latent "Boy racer" tendencies and are no more than 5'6" tall....at 6'1" it was a real test just getting in and out. Reminded me of a Miata with a coupe body I fit in a BRZ much better than one would imagine and I'm 6'7". I've even autocrossed a FR-S with my helmet on, although that was tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Wasn't the Toyota variant (GT-86) Clarkson's car of the year?! Is there much/any difference between it and the BRZ? Crap, Clarkson nominated the 4th Gen for car of the year. I like my car but it' not THAT good. That kinda takes the shine off Clarkson's opinion for me. Then again, I'm not a Subie fan. I wouldn't be caught dead in any of their current (non-BRZ) products. I just like the 4th Gen LGT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebo Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Then again, I'm not a Subie fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 no more than 5'6" tall....at 6'1" it was a real test just getting in and out. It has more space for the driver than 4th gen LGT. I'm ~6', regular build. You must have some really disproportionate legs or something. 666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Yup. I remember the crap Subaru sold in the US in the 80s and 90s. I'm not a fan of any one marque, but if one makes a particularly good car and I'm in the market, I'll buy it. Doesn't mean I'll become religiously loyal, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stang70Fastback Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Isn't that the 2 door coupe built with Toyota? You have been living under a rock. I've read mixed reviews of it You are terribly misinformed. from what I've read, it certainly hasn't gotten rave reviews. A good car, but just not a great car. Refer to my previous two statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 What you call rave reviews and what I call rave reviews are obviously different. But go under the covers and abuse yourself to reviews of the BRZ. Watch out for papercuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Well ok. I consider "car of the year" to be a rave review. Clearly our definitions differ in several areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRSCobra Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Words cannot describe how many times this has been argued about on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Has it really been argued? I mean it either wins car of the year awards or it doesn't. It's not subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 http://3dtopo.com/lostPLA/ 3d printing meets hot metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Well ok. I consider "car of the year" to be a rave review. Clearly our definitions differ in several areas. I consider car of the year to be a way to get more advertising from that car maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurlyOldManMN Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I consider car of the year to be a way to get more advertising from that car maker. So now all car reviews are marketing conspiracies? Fine. It was a rave conspiracy. You know, as opposed to a mixed conspiracy. Not the run of the mill "good and bad" mixed conspiracy either. This was a "good and great" conspiracy. Tricksy bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRSCobra Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Has it really been argued? I mean it either wins car of the year awards or it doesn't. It's not subjective. Well maybe not this exact "car of the year" arguement, but there is always a BRZ sucks/is awesome thread somewhere on the forum at any given time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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