smokin.legacy Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Whats the the deal with the 3.0 Legacy I seen it at the dealership recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochNY91TSI Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 It's a legacy with a 3 liter boxer 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golf4283 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 inline 6?? I think not It's got a boxer 6 in it. It's a very smooth engine and made for little more upscale ride rather than the boy racer crowd. I love my H6 powered Leggy. Great torque curve and not too rowdy for my daily commute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtmenace Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 been around for a while now... the car, not you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin.legacy Posted August 22, 2008 Author Share Posted August 22, 2008 hmm....do they make a turbo version? is it supposed to be better then the spec b? nav and all that jazz or is it pretty basic? better on gas? something? wats the point..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGV101 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 A very generalized statement: 3.0 - Great engine off the shelf, better torque curve = smoother ride 2.5GT - Enormous mod potential, pure power (especially once modified) sorry, no turbo for the 3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdubs Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 No turbo, not as much pep as the 2.5 turbo. I think it only has a couple more HP than the 2.5. It's available with a 5eat only. It has Nav and is totally loaded, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtmenace Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 subaru has a whole website dedicated to these cars, you should check it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 www.subaru.com /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzyss Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 No turbo, not as much pep as the 2.5 turbo. I think it only has a couple more HP than the 2.5. It's available with a 5eat only. It has Nav and is totally loaded, though. like 75 (more or less). Krzys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigT Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Why does this thread still exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtmenace Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Why does this thread still exist? because teh suck is strong in this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gitster Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 like 75 (more or less). Krzys 2.5T ?!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gitster Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 been around for a while now... the car, not you roflz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Whats the the deal with the 3.0 Legacy I seen it at the dealership recently? That's the model we have had here in Sweden the last years, even a 3.0 Spec B exists here, but no 2.5 turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 like 75 (more or less). Krzys He was saying the 3.0 had a bit more HP than the 2.5GT. Which is true, I went to the SUBARU.COM site and it told me so. Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzyss Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Apparently I missed the turbo part and saw only 2.5 Krzys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z28dreams Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 2.5i - 170hp/170tq 2.5gt - 243hp/241tq 3.0 - 245hp/215tq It's really odd that they have similar horsepower but the 2.5GT with the smaller displacement has more torque. Anyone know how moddable the 3.0 is? My 2.5GT is fun but I -really- miss having torque in the lower RPM range. The BMW 335 has a nice 3.0 twin turbo setup... how hard would that be to match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigT Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 2.5i - 170hp/170tq 2.5gt - 243hp/241tq 3.0 - 245hp/215tq It's really odd that they have similar horsepower but the 2.5GT with the smaller displacement has more torque. Anyone know how moddable the 3.0 is? My 2.5GT is fun but I -really- miss having torque in the lower RPM range. The BMW 335 has a nice 3.0 twin turbo setup... how hard would that be to match? It would be about as hard as adding two turbos! There are entire sections of this forum devoted to this model. I mean this is beyond the search button.... just open up the forum page and read! All jokes aside, there is someone taking on a project where they are attempting to make the 3.0 NA into a 3.0 FI engine. He's not from the US, but if he comes up with something, I'm pretty sure the applications would be usable across all of the models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramenbuoy Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 oooh. 3.0 FI would be an interesting, and not to mention damn sexy project. Thought I still like the idea of the underdog (2.5GT) waaaay better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted August 30, 2008 Share Posted August 30, 2008 Well... let's see here... stronger, lower compression pistons. More robust piston rings Possibly re-ground cams. fuel injector and fuel system upgrades possible re-program of the AVCS, TGV, and definitely fuel map. possible changes to the intake system, or vacuum distribution. Probably different spark plugs. Possibly different exhaust valves for heat resistance. Custom exhaust system, and route planning. complete integration of wastegate and BOV systems. Proper turbo selection, and consideration for asymmetrical turbo inlet and outlet geometry. Intercooler configuration, and likely modification for a front mounted unit, rather than top-mounted. Connecting that front mount to the factory, or custom intake manifolds. Two intake tract runs into the turbos, with flow sensors for the computer. Increased cooling capacity, fans, thicker radiator, etc... Increased oil cooling capacity for the engine, and possibly differentials, and trans if it is automatic. A robust clutch, and making sure the drivetrain, suspension, and brakes are up to the task of handling a 3500lb, 400+ horsepower AWD monster. Perrin, and others have swapped a single-turbo, built 3.0 block H6 into previous-gen STIs... and they are monsters, and I believe were water injected, as well, to keep temperatures in check. Very interesting stuff, but not for the light of wallet, or faint of heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigT Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Perrin, and others have swapped a single-turbo, built 3.0 block H6 into previous-gen STIs... and they are monsters, and I believe were water injected, as well, to keep temperatures in check. Very interesting stuff, but not for the light of wallet, or faint of heart. I think all in all it was not a very smart financial decision. For the money, you could get a better car with more reliable performance and no headaches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Well, Perrin was breaking new ground, so he and Sponaugle did a lot of experimentation with different pistons, rods, valve springs, etc. They had a lot of different parts made before they settled on their final configuration. The results were quite pleasing - 600 hp, and they'll do it for you too, for only about $15K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 15k is not that bad. If you have the money. 600hp out of well less than 4 liters, in a boxer. I doubt you could modify a Porsche turbo motor for anywhere NEAR that price for that much horsepower. Custom engine work often heads well north of that price. The Hartley H1 V8 is at least $30k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacks GT Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Well... let's see here... stronger, lower compression pistons. More robust piston rings Possibly re-ground cams. fuel injector and fuel system upgrades possible re-program of the AVCS, TGV, and definitely fuel map. possible changes to the intake system, or vacuum distribution. Probably different spark plugs. Possibly different exhaust valves for heat resistance. Custom exhaust system, and route planning. complete integration of wastegate and BOV systems. Proper turbo selection, and consideration for asymmetrical turbo inlet and outlet geometry. Intercooler configuration, and likely modification for a front mounted unit, rather than top-mounted. Connecting that front mount to the factory, or custom intake manifolds. Two intake tract runs into the turbos, with flow sensors for the computer. Increased cooling capacity, fans, thicker radiator, etc... Increased oil cooling capacity for the engine, and possibly differentials, and trans if it is automatic. A robust clutch, and making sure the drivetrain, suspension, and brakes are up to the task of handling a 3500lb, 400+ horsepower AWD monster. Perrin, and others have swapped a single-turbo, built 3.0 block H6 into previous-gen STIs... and they are monsters, and I believe were water injected, as well, to keep temperatures in check. Very interesting stuff, but not for the light of wallet, or faint of heart. dude you make me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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