DarkLegacy Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I want to buy a down pipe... I need some help deciding. Catless vs High flow.... any ideas??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisted Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 go cat - the catless smells too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regal05LGT Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Easier to pass visual inspection too with a cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschmelcke Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 well the resonator looks like a cat so to the untrained eye you can get away with it, but yes the smell sucks. if i could do it again i probably would have gone catted but im too cheap to buy another dp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 What smell ? Drive faster Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GULLABLE0NE Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 DARK, i've been checking around about the same stuff and it looks like the hi-flow-cat is the better but expensive route.. passing emissions is a big deciding factor for me at least. let me know what you decide on and where you have it installed. i need a good install shop, my regular mechanic/ body shop isn't big on doing performance mods and stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regal05LGT Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 The cheapest way is to gut the stocker, the route I went. If you have emissions, obviously don't go catless, but if it's just a visual inspection I'd say f**k it n gut the stock one. You can't really smell it inside the cabin, it's the people drivin behind you lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschmelcke Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 the best part about ct is our emissions only checks for engine codes. if you have no codes you pass. they dont have awd dynos to do the sniffer test. also you do smell it inside the cabin only if you have your front windows open. it acts like a vacuum. i usually put on my ac with recirc or open the back windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLegacy Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 All great advice. I think I may may w/cat mainly for the emissions. Hey Gulla - I know a great shop near Glen Cove. I do most of my mods buy for the electronic stuff and some of the more complex mods I use North Coast Rally Subaru. Speak with Bill. He is a really nice guy that knows his stuff. Another shop that is a little more east is Metric Subaru. Thanks for the help guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow05gtRI Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 does a high-flow cat still pass emissions testing? though in RI there is no AWD dyno either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLegacy Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 I think it does... though I'm positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02rusWRX Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 If you have the money go with a NEW highflow catted DP. 1. It will pass emissions (for a while) 2. You won't get sick from the raw fuel all the time your windows are down 3. It will be quieter and you'll get less shit from authorities Buying catted used can sometimes be iffy as I found out. When I had my WRX I bought a used Invidia catted DP which supposedly had 15K miles on it. The highflow cat was already going bad, so I could still smell a little bit of raw fuel, it was louder than it should have been and I failed emissions by a hair, as opposed to passing by a mile. -Sergei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLegacy Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 Great advice. I think my mind is made up. Catted for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edkwon Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I went with catted because frankly, uncatted on cars like the legacy (with its low key classy styling) is just too damn embarassing with the noise, smell and eventual exhaust stain on the bumper. Plus i park my car in an enclosed underground garage, not in the mood to poison the air with my constant startups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsme Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Why not just get a shorty and keep your mid catt. I have a shorty DP and a Hi flow cat and I don't notice a lose in power. Racer X FMIC for '05-'09 LGTs, '08+ WRX and '10+ LGT,'14+ FXT, and '15+ WRX TMIC Racerxengineering.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02rusWRX Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Why not just get a shorty and keep your mid catt. I have a shorty DP and a Hi flow cat and I don't notice a lose in power. So you have a shorty catless and a high flow catted mid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsme Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 So you have a shorty catless and a high flow catted mid? That's what I did. I ran 3" pipe and hi -flow catt after the shorty. http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u156/itsmebryan/180334.jpg Racer X FMIC for '05-'09 LGTs, '08+ WRX and '10+ LGT,'14+ FXT, and '15+ WRX TMIC Racerxengineering.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02rusWRX Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 That's what I did. I ran 3" pipe and hi -flow catt after the shorty. That's an excllent choice for a setup, however your advice to the OP is a little misleading though. You suggested for him to ditch the post turbo catted pipe for a catless shorty and keep the OEM catted mid, comparing this to your setup. Of course you would not really be restricted, but an OEM cat converter would be. I had a similar setup on the WRX where I had a catted Perrin front pipe and catless mid. I though it would make it easier to pass emissions because I could just replace the catless mid with the OEM piece and have a 2 cat system that would be guaranteed to pass emissions. Unfortunately this setup was very expensive and a pain in the ass to make work from the start, and then it wasn't that much easier to replace just the mid piece as opposed to the entire DP. -Sergei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsme Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 That's an excllent choice for a setup, however your advice to the OP is a little misleading though. You suggested for him to ditch the post turbo catted pipe for a catless shorty and keep the OEM catted mid, comparing this to your setup. Of course you would not really be restricted, but an OEM cat converter would be. I had a similar setup on the WRX where I had a catted Perrin front pipe and catless mid. I though it would make it easier to pass emissions because I could just replace the catless mid with the OEM piece and have a 2 cat system that would be guaranteed to pass emissions. Unfortunately this setup was very expensive and a pain in the ass to make work from the start, and then it wasn't that much easier to replace just the mid piece as opposed to the entire DP. -Sergei You are right. It was late and I sleepy. I wanted to say " You can just get a shorty and keep you can keep your mid catt." I had a the shorty connected to the stock setup for a while. I notice a improvement after I added the hi flow catt. From datalogs I haven't seen much difference between my catted setup and non-catted setups. I hope that is more clear. Racer X FMIC for '05-'09 LGTs, '08+ WRX and '10+ LGT,'14+ FXT, and '15+ WRX TMIC Racerxengineering.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02rusWRX Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 You are right. It was late and I sleepy. I wanted to say " You can just get a shorty and keep you can keep your mid catt." I had a the shorty connected to the stock setup for a while. I notice a improvement after I added the hi flow catt. From datalogs I haven't seen much difference between my catted setup and non-catted setups. I hope that is more clear. No problem dude, sweet license palte and a good looking wagon there! What catback is that? -Sergei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsme Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 It's custom made. It's a 3" hi-flow catt to a Borla XR-1 muffler as a res., then y to 2.25" pipe and 2.25" Magnaflow mufflers with magnaflow tips. Racer X FMIC for '05-'09 LGTs, '08+ WRX and '10+ LGT,'14+ FXT, and '15+ WRX TMIC Racerxengineering.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02rusWRX Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 It's custom made. It's a 3" hi-flow catt to a Borla XR-1 muffler as a res., then y to 2.25" pipe and 2.25" Magnaflow mufflers with magnaflow tips. How much did that run you if you don't mind me asking, and which shorty DP did you go with? Thanks! -Sergei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsme Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 How much did that run you if you don't mind me asking, and which shorty DP did you go with? Thanks! -Sergei Well I got the parts for $300 and the labor was about $200. Racer X FMIC for '05-'09 LGTs, '08+ WRX and '10+ LGT,'14+ FXT, and '15+ WRX TMIC Racerxengineering.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02rusWRX Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Well I got the parts for $300 and the labor was about $200. Not a bad deal! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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