mfg Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Which ones of these tires perform better in a Dry and Wet situation? I know the 912 is cheaper but i'm leaning toward the 615 even though it's pricer? I need your input on both of these tires. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urfsin Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Totally different tires. The 615 is a summer and will give you mucho grip on warm days. It seems to do ok in the rain, as long as the tempature is still warm. I see you are in Canada, so watch out when it get's near or below freezing with the 615, those tires will turn into rocks and will be quite dangerous. The 912 is an all season and will not be nearly as grippy as the 615, but will be fine in cold and or rainy conditions. Slide It Sideways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 True that. i'm going to use this just for summer, i have a set for winter also. thanks for the input. Have anyone experience these 2 tires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 yes I have.. the 615 is superior in terms of grip when the the temps are above freezing. You would need 2"+ of standing water to make the zeix appealing. I dont think you get that much rain. Just drive slower in the rain, you'll be fine with the 615s. Dont even bother looking at All-season tires if you are looking for a tire you plan on using during the summer. Just rule of thumb. Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devobuzz Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I really like my 615's with the exception of the noise! Right now I'm worried that a wheel bearing will go bad and I can't hear it. Or maybe I already have bad bearing and don't know it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I really like my 615's with the exception of the noise! Right now I'm worried that a wheel bearing will go bad and I can't hear it. Or maybe I already have bad bearing and don't know it.... Are the 615s really that loud. I was gonna get them next. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Not deafening, but I noticed a distinct increase in noise over the Kumho's when I changed. I keep checking my wheel bearings too On the positive side, they do have fantastic dry grip, but obviously at the expense of high wear rate. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 if you think the 615s are loud, try some Yokohama A032s, those make as much noise as a jeep on mudslingers. Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfg Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 You guys got me convinced. Looks like i'm going for the azenis t615. thanks members Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedeeLGT Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 On the positive side, they do have fantastic dry grip, but obviously at the expense of high wear rate. Exactly! I went with these last April per Keefe's recommendation. I love them and they gripped unbelievably, BUT they wore faster than I thought. The tread is down to the point where I start hydroplaning at 40mph after the skies open up. This is only with about 10k miles on them. Never tracked and about a 1/4 of those miles are highway miles. Now I'm looking for some replacement summer tires with slightly slower wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nKoan Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I've run both. Just to echo what's been said here, if you are looking for a summer-only performance tire, get the st-615. If you want all season with decent all around performance (but not great by any means) get the zeix 912. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonLGT Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 I like my 912s. I love sticky tires as much as the next person but the 615s wear so fast especially under common spirited driving.if the sidewalls are as stiff as re070s expect a bumpier ride too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XVR_legacy Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 i just got the 452's and i love them. Not noisy at all and the grip is awesome. I have heard of a lot of people with lowered LGT's and 8" or wider tires rubbing with the 615's. That and they dont have the longest of tread life either. Again, thats what i have heard from people so i went with the 452's and love them. -Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ed Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 Totally different tires. The 615 is a summer and will give you mucho grip on warm days. It seems to do ok in the rain, as long as the tempature is still warm. I see you are in Canada, so watch out when it get's near or below freezing with the 615, those tires will turn into rocks and will be quite dangerous. The 912 is an all season and will not be nearly as grippy as the 615, but will be fine in cold and or rainy conditions. I have the 912's and they have been superb....in everything but ice/cold conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisan Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 The 615s are dirt cheap! I guess they are expensive on the el-cheapo subaru owner scale. I went from stock tires to 235-40-17 EVO take off Yokohama tires and they were an amazing upgrade. I just was debating between the Falken 615s and the REO1Rs and went with the 615s cause they were much cheaper and if I don't like em, I'll get the RE01Rs next time around. These are used for street and track use. -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nm Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 615s are decent tires and much much better than the 912s in anything that's not winter. However, Dunlop Durezza Sport 1Z star Specs will beat them in all areas for like $10 more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisan Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 615s are decent tires and much much better than the 912s in anything that's not winter. However, Dunlop Durezza Sport 1Z star Specs will beat them in all areas for like $10 more. I guess next time around I'll give them a try... -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyjr Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 I just got the Falken 452's in 225/45/18 size and am very pleased with the tire. Right out the box they best the Toyo t1 r's they replaced. Great ride comfort , very sticky and slightly better turn in than the Toyo's due to the marginally better (stiffer) side wall. We get alot of rain here in South Fla and they have performed like a champ. Much better tire than the 912 or 512. I autocross them next week so will report on that too. BTW got them for $ 132 each at a local discounter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caramall2 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Old thread but....I have KDW 2 (now called KDW NT). Excellent dry and wet traction, they've lasted great, and low price ($123 for 225 17"). Took them to the track and they held up very well. Downside: Noise...not terrible, but noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisan Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 615s are decent tires and much much better than the 912s in anything that's not winter. However, Dunlop Durezza Sport 1Z star Specs will beat them in all areas for like $10 more. The Azenis didn't quite fit, so I went with the Dunlops in 225-45 on my STi rims. Will report back how they fair. -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nm Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 The Azenis didn't quite fit, so I went with the Dunlops in 225-45 on my STi rims. Will report back how they fair. -mike I've gone from the Z1 to RT-615s on a temporary basis. Tire shop claimed to have Z1s, actually got DZ101s. i was on 1/32" so they gave me some loner tires in the form of RT-615s. I've auto-crossed them twice and you can really feel the difference. They heat up slower -- though don't hold up to heat like the dunlops and the ultimate grip is noticebly worse. They also have some issues with steering when one tire gets loaded quickly that the dunlops did not have. RT-615 are really a second-tier tire now. Unfortunatly, Z1s in 225/45/17 are on national backorder, so I'm going with Re-01Rs, which hopefully will be comparable wth the dunlops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisan Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I've gone from the Z1 to RT-615s on a temporary basis. Tire shop claimed to have Z1s, actually got DZ101s. i was on 1/32" so they gave me some loner tires in the form of RT-615s. I've auto-crossed them twice and you can really feel the difference. They heat up slower -- though don't hold up to heat like the dunlops and the ultimate grip is noticebly worse. They also have some issues with steering when one tire gets loaded quickly that the dunlops did not have. RT-615 are really a second-tier tire now. Unfortunatly, Z1s in 225/45/17 are on national backorder, so I'm going with Re-01Rs, which hopefully will be comparable wth the dunlops. Yeah I haven't driven on Azenis since they were the old version. I guess I got one of the last sets of the Z1s in 225-45-17 from TR. I was debating the RE-01Rs, which are a better tire, but at a higher cost. I felt the cost increase to the RE-01Rs over the Dunlops wasn't worth it. I may have the Z1s out on Pocono North this coming weekend, so hopefully I'll have some feedback. -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 How many here are confusing Falken Ziex 912s (brand new) with Falken Ziex 512 (been around for ~5-10 years)? Ziex 512s are uni-directional, Ziex 912s are non-directional. Just asking, because it seems too many people have been running the 912s for how long they've been out... Joe P.s. I have the Ziex 912s on my 06 Civic SI since March/8k miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisan Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 How many here are confusing Falken Ziex 912s (brand new) with Falken Ziex 512 (been around for ~5-10 years)? Ziex 512s are uni-directional, Ziex 912s are non-directional. Just asking, because it seems too many people have been running the 912s for how long they've been out... Joe P.s. I have the Ziex 912s on my 06 Civic SI since March/8k miles. Dunno, but I never ran Ziexs. Azenis were the only Falkens I felt were worth anything, and at that it was due to their low price (1st gen), now the new ones are almost as expensive as the rest of the tires out there so I'm not sure they are worth it anymore. -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ed Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Dunno, but I never ran Ziexs. Azenis were the only Falkens I felt were worth anything, and at that it was due to their low price (1st gen), now the new ones are almost as expensive as the rest of the tires out there so I'm not sure they are worth it anymore. -mike well...that is kinda what I was thinking. Azenis were more expensive than the 912's when I got them last year. and I actually ran 912's. They were excellent in everything but ice...and from what I've tried in the $300-$350 price range they win hands down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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