SubieDriver Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 ... we always get the shaft in getting cool models. Actually, not always. We got the 2.5 STI first, while everyone else was still on the 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ih8vtec13 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 but that 2.0 could safely rev up to 9k and the 2.5 cant. Also the STi is suposed to be based off the rally car and the rules for rally were no motors bigger then a 2.0. Trust me I have a counter point for anything you can throw at me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 ... but the 2.0 rules were only for World Rally, not US Rally. US allows 2.5 liter engines. Yes, the 2.0 could rev higher, but it had to in order to wring the power out of it. Though Japan has higher quality fuel, thus they can run higher compression in the 2.0 in Japan than we can in the US versions. That's one thing that drove the release of the 2.5 here. If Subaru wanted to, they could build the 2.5 to rev higher, but they haven't felt the need to, as the 2.5 gives more torque lower in the rev range. If they built the 2.5 like they did the Japanese 2.0, we would have a decided power advantage. I don't think they want their home market overshadowed by the US market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I've heard the Legacy STi will be here soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt_ltd Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 +1 I was told it will be here soon... This Space For Rent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 I was told that too,... by jim1969 and gt_ltd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt_ltd Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 official site updated! http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/s402 US$50K+ This Space For Rent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mines Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 hottness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddseth Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 I think this thing is going to be a lightweight! If I am correct, the specifications on the web site state that the 6mt dry weight is 1460 kg or approximately 3220 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 I think this thing is going to be a lightweight! If I am correct, the specifications on the web site state that the 6mt dry weight is 1460 kg or approximately 3220 lbs. That IS a lightweight compared to the current Legacy GT @3400+ lbs. and the Spec.B @ 3530 lbs. The current lightest Legacy is the 2.5i w/ manual @ 3270 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt_ltd Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 who in here is willing to pay $54K for one? This Space For Rent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddseth Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I wonder why it is that expensive. How much was the LGT Tuned by Sti? This engine cannot be that much more expensive than the engine in the Japanese Sti. My guess is that in the event they decide to bring this car to the US, they will use a single scroll turbo like that in the Sti to keep the price down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 They are pricy because they are meant to be a "collector" item... special edition at the end of the model life. They would not/could not charge as much here, simply because of the brand/model recognition (or lack of it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffK1320 Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 :eek: 2010 Subaru Legacy (Liberty) details http://www.motorauthority.com/news/sedans/2010-subaru-legacy-liberty-details/ The engines will be available in both turbo and naturally aspirated guises. The entry-level 2.0L engine should develop around 200hp, while the a turbocharged 2.5L unit will output close to 300hp. There have also been rumors of a new Legacy STI in the works, which could be carrying a turbocharged 3.7L unit pumping out over 430hp. '07 Forester STI (ECS Performance)..SOLD! '09 Spec B...Sold! '11 LGT Limited...Sold! '17 STI Limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 I wonder what they're going to do to the 3.6 to make it a 3.7. I doubt it would be an all-new motor already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddseth Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Great find, Jeff. If they bump the base engine to 200 hp and the 2.5 turbo up to 300, this will bridge the gap in performance with the 335xi, G35x, etc. As for a 3.7l turbo, looks like Subaru is eyeballing Nissan's Godzilla Skyline GTR. Hopefully if they pull this off, they will keep the weight down since the Skyline is quite heavy for such a performance beast. Also, hopefully I will be making enough money to afford one of these STi's since they will definitely be in the $50k+ price range. SubieDriver - they will most likely have to modify the bore and stroke on the 3.6 in order to turbocharge it since the compression ratio on the current 3.6 is too high for reliable turbocharging. They will most likely decrease the bore and increase the stroke slightly in order to increase the wall thickness in between the cylinders. The thickness in the current 3.6 is pretty much as narrow as it can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 That'll be quite a feat to increase the stroke even more! They had to do the lambchop rods to make it work for the 3.6. Is there enough room in there to increase stroke any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddseth Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Good question. I do know that the changes would be minimal - maybe they could change the diameter of the crankshaft to increase the stroke. Either way, my chances of having a stroke would increase if they ever produce this engine!! Would sound like a 911 turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mines Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Great find, Jeff. If they bump the base engine to 200 hp and the 2.5 turbo up to 300, this will bridge the gap in performance with the 335xi, G35x, etc. As for a 3.7l turbo, looks like Subaru is eyeballing Nissan's Godzilla Skyline GTR. Hopefully if they pull this off, they will keep the weight down since the Skyline is quite heavy for such a performance beast. Also, hopefully I will be making enough money to afford one of these STi's since they will definitely be in the $50k+ price range. SubieDriver - they will most likely have to modify the bore and stroke on the 3.6 in order to turbocharge it since the compression ratio on the current 3.6 is too high for reliable turbocharging. They will most likely decrease the bore and increase the stroke slightly in order to increase the wall thickness in between the cylinders. The thickness in the current 3.6 is pretty much as narrow as it can be. no way subaru is aiming for the GTR, just dont see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Yeah, Subaru doesn't have the bank account for that, but they could definitely make a more affordable, slightly less capable gran touring sedan for those of us who can afford one. (Well, I could've, until I bought my Tribeca...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buru Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 any updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Well, other than the fact that the S402 is now official, and in production for Japan only, no updates. Can't get them here. Maybe by the time they're on the S407 they'll come here... Here's an article that says they were due to go on sale on June 27th: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/15/jdm-goodness-subaru-legacy-sti-s402/ I'm sure they're sold out by now. They were probably sold out before production started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buru Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 cool well thanks man. That car is so crazy! It is like 300hp correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buru Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 what tire size? those look like the BBS RE's!!! I like mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 cool well thanks man. That car is so crazy! It is like 300hp correct? 282hp. http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/05/subaru-legacy-sti-s402-limited-edition.html what tire size? those look like the BBS RE's!!! I like mine. 18" BBS wheels, 235/40R18 tires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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