rs6er Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I've read every thread on suspension on this forum. I had decided on Pinks for my spec B but got talked into Ions by someone who had used both. I'm not happy with the harshness of the ride over bumps. I thought coilovers would be the answer, but after reading all the posts, I don't think they are the answer either. I LIKED the stock SpecB suspension (I'm not a street or track racer- I have an old Porsche for that.) All I want is a car that looks good but with a stock ride. Am I SOL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 You could cut your stock springs. You will probably bottom out though on big bumps. Better option, put in Konis or Tokicos with your Ions. The ride will still be stiffer, but it will control the stiffer springs better. The Crimson Dynamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunburnNYC Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 coilovers is the way to go for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs6er Posted March 20, 2008 Author Share Posted March 20, 2008 coilovers is the way to go for sure. Do you have them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC GT Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 What size tires are you running? I'm on 225/45/18s and they smooth out a lot of harshness that I experienced when I was running 225/40/18s. BTW, I'm on JDM Spec B struts and Wangan springs. I used to have Spec B struts and pink springs. I never thought the ride was harsh with either set up, but, like I said, I did think 225/40/18s made my ride harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunburnNYC Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Do you have them? on every car I have owned. I like Tein or H&R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowImg Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Lots of folks have coilovers, for you specifically I would think you need to get something adjustable, so you can play around until you find what you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs6er Posted March 20, 2008 Author Share Posted March 20, 2008 What size tires are you running? I'm on 225/45/18s and they smooth out a lot of harshness that I experienced when I was running 225/40/18s. BTW, I'm on JDM Spec B struts and Wangan springs. I used to have Spec B struts and pink springs. I never thought the ride was harsh with either set up, but, like I said, I did think 225/40/18s made my ride harsh. Right now I have 17" Rotas with Blizzaks on it. I am constantly hitting the bumpstops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs6er Posted March 20, 2008 Author Share Posted March 20, 2008 on every car I have owned. I like Tein or H&R I'd love to meet up one day and check out the ride. I am in Westchester Cty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunburnNYC Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Right now I have 17" Rotas with Blizzaks on it. I am constantly hitting the bumpstops. not to be rude or anything -but do you drive like a maniac? you should not be hitting your bumpstops unless something is really wrong or you are a nut behind the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC GT Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Right now I have 17" Rotas with Blizzaks on it. I am constantly hitting the bumpstops. If you didn't hit the bump stops with your stock Spec B springs, you shouldn't hit the bump stops with pink springs. I've never had a problem hitting the bumpstops with either pinks or Wangans which have nearly identical spring rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs6er Posted March 20, 2008 Author Share Posted March 20, 2008 I'm only hitting the bumpstops (I think that's what it is when the front end goes bang!) on bumps. I am the farthest thing from a maniac driver. On smooth pavement there is no problem. The springs were installed by an off-duty Subaru tech at a dealer who does lots of performance work. I was told these were progressive SpecB specific springs by Ion and would be more comfortable than Pinks. Ion told me to check my dust boots to see if they were hitting. Does this make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunburnNYC Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 sounds like you have the wrong springs installed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunburnNYC Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I'd love to meet up one day and check out the ride. I am in Westchester Cty. I work here: www.actiontire.com I can get you a deal on coilovers and install if your interested. Try to get me a part # on the springs you have installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubLo Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Coilovers are not the way to go if you want a smooth close-to-stock ride with a "good looking" lowered ride. Even the mildest coilovers will jolt you around more so than most of the most aggressive spring + stock strut setup. Pinks are a good compromise. Cutting your stock springs is not ideal as rate, travel, seating, and potentially hardness near where you cut them (due to heat) will be affected. ________________________________________________ [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=1980"]'05 BSM OBXT Row-your-own, W.I.P. :rolleyes:[/URL] [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=1242"]'06 Shrek B # 64 - The car the wife loved to hate :( Sold...[/URL] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 ^ Negative. KW coilovers very smooth riding. Almost too soft for serious performance suspension. Plus full control of ride height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunburnNYC Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Coilovers are not the way to go if you want a smooth close-to-stock ride with a "good looking" lowered ride. Even the mildest coilovers will jolt you around more so than most of the most aggressive spring + stock strut setup. Pinks are a good compromise. Cutting your stock springs is not ideal as rate, travel, seating, and potentially hardness near where you cut them (due to heat) will be affected. I disagree... we could argue all day about this... I have put coilover and strut/shock setups on literally 1000's of cars. anyone else wanna chime in here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubLo Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 I disagree... we could argue all day about this... I have put coilover and strut/shock setups on literally 1000's of cars. anyone else wanna chime in here? That's your prerogative, sure. Rs6er can take rides in countless coilver LGTs at the Tri-State Harriman meet and make up his own mind. ________________________________________________ [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=1980"]'05 BSM OBXT Row-your-own, W.I.P. :rolleyes:[/URL] [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=1242"]'06 Shrek B # 64 - The car the wife loved to hate :( Sold...[/URL] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunburnNYC Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 That's your prerogative, sure. Rs6er can take rides in countless coilver LGTs at the Tri-State Harriman meet and make up his own mind. very good idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs6er Posted March 20, 2008 Author Share Posted March 20, 2008 That's your prerogative, sure. Rs6er can take rides in countless coilver LGTs at the Tri-State Harriman meet and make up his own mind. Not to mention, countless people can tell me if there's something wrong with the installed springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team23jordan Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 just go with tein h-techs Perrin BIG maf intake Perrin Turbo Inlet HKS SSQV BOV Megan Racing header with UP (ceramic coated) HKS DP (WRX) DMH E-cutout Custom 3" catback UTEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubLo Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 just go with tein h-techs H-techs are comfy but will give you an uneven drop. The front will be way to high in relation to the drop in the back. First-hand experience here. ________________________________________________ [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=1980"]'05 BSM OBXT Row-your-own, W.I.P. :rolleyes:[/URL] [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/vbpicgallery.php?do=view&g=1242"]'06 Shrek B # 64 - The car the wife loved to hate :( Sold...[/URL] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE_1985 Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 h techs and tokicos seem like a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q2slinger Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 Pinks FTW:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rs6er Posted March 20, 2008 Author Share Posted March 20, 2008 Got any photos of your installation? And what is your definition of "reasonable wheel gaps".. IMO, the gap looks best when it is even all around the wheel and not so low that you can barely get a finger in between the top of the tire and fender... The front gap looks good with the Ions. The rear is too much. Here are pictures of the front, rear and rear with a practically empty gas tank. Jack at Ion Performance told me to check the front dust boots. He thinks the boot may be too compressed and should be trimmed. I just looked at it and it is pretty compressed. He thinks this is what I may be mistaking for hitting the bump stops (also, I read somewhere that inverted struts like Bilsteins don't have bump stops. Is this true?) In any case, there is a pronounced muscle car rake. The rear seems much too high. Just did a finger test. Fronts are 1 finger. Left rear is 2 1/2 fingers. Right rear is 3 1/2 fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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