iyalla Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 So sorry for your accident man, at least you hit some eye candy Is invisible black ice predictable? Could someone explain how to avoid it, it might be helpful to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted February 9, 2008 Author Share Posted February 9, 2008 No the airbags didnt deploy-thank god. and yea i also didnt get cited either they just basically said that it was unavoidable due to the untreated road condition and the only reason y i went down was becusae the woman wasnt coming until i was about half way down the hill and it was too late then so i basically just did what ever i could and prayed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subieboyLGT05 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Glad u're but wouldn't anyone w/ common sense not go up a unplowed road w/ a car coming down If i would've been her and seen u coming down hill i would've moved so u could make it down safely especially if there were cars parked on bout sides.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted February 9, 2008 Author Share Posted February 9, 2008 Yea thats what everyone is trying to figure out!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Which comes back to the fact that it's her fault for not reading the road conditions correctly Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillboy Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I think we can trace it back to waking up in the morning. It is still ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I think we can trace it back to waking up in the morning. I think it was the day you were born Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigelow Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 If there is black ice about, then you should slow down I've been going 5-10mph before and gotten a little skiddish on black ice. By your logic, people should just not drive at all. I understand what you're saying, and 98% of the time, you're dead right. And yes, most of those people won't admit that they were at fault. When I went down on a motorcycle, I was the first one to say it was my fault. I was going way too fast for how stiff the shocks were set. Stupid, I didn't adjust them before I went out, that's my fault and I got what was coming to me for it. However, there are, albeit very rare, cases where there is no 'fault' other than driving and having something unexpected happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 However, there are, albeit very rare, cases where there is no 'fault' other than driving and having something unexpected happen. What is referred to as the truest sense of the word "accident." SBT - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigelow Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 What is referred to as the truest sense of the word "accident." SBT Is that a question? If so, the answer is pregnancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Is that a question? If so, the answer is pregnancy. It was a statement. And pregnancy, by the nature of the definition, is never an accident. Unplanned, unwanted, but never an accident. SBT - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neurodancer Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Pennsylvania is a "no fault" state, I believe. In some states, fault has to be assigned, and sometimes it can be proportionately assigned. In "no fault" states, I believe that it is possible to have no citations under circumstances where an accident was not blatantly caused by any driver's actions. I think the other driver would be upset because when there is no fault, the liability goes equally to each driver's insurance company. Unfortunately, Grimace, that prolly means your insurance is going up now... I'm not an expert on these things, but that is my understanding of insurance in PA from my limited time living there. Good Luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigelow Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 It was a statement. And pregnancy, by the nature of the definition, is never an accident. Unplanned, unwanted, but never an accident. SBT Bah, now we're just getting into semantics. I'm just never going to drive and sit around the house wearing a condom all the time so I'm never at fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleM Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Dude, that really sucks. I don't know where you were at, but we haven't had too much snow recently, had an inch last night, that was it. Glad you're ok though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 No the airbags didnt deploy-thank god. and yea i also didnt get cited either they just basically said that it was unavoidable due to the untreated road condition and the only reason y i went down was becusae the woman wasnt coming until i was about half way down the hill and it was too late then so i basically just did what ever i could and prayed! Since the damages were small and nobody got hurt I would assume that the cop just figured out that it was one of those shit happens events and thought that it was no idea to bring that any further. See it as a learning experience, and get a better set of tires that are rated for winter use, the Momentums are designed to be all-season, but that doesn't mean that they are good on ice. If the tire has the marking M+S it is considered by the manufacturer to be a winter tire. Just be aware that they are wearing down fast and offering less grip in warm weather. Compare the images of two winter-specific tires and the Momentum. Especially note the fine cutting that is added to the winter tires. This will improve the grip a lot on wet ice surfaces. http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/conti/co_ContiWinterContact_ts810_ci2_l.jpghttp://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/michelin/mi_xice_ci2_l.jpg http://www.garysauto.com/media/images/tires/momentum.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I think the other driver would be upset because when there is no fault, the liability goes equally to each driver's insurance company. Unfortunately, Grimace, that prolly means your insurance is going up now... Maybe it's time to bring out the calculator and see if it's cheaper to avoid the insurance company and pay the bill yourself... Sometimes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 However now the girl i hit admitted that as sson as she saw me coming down the hill with no control she closed her eyes. Doesnt anyone else find that a bit off??? And thanks to everyone about me being ok i am i just want my car back. And also yea i am getting snow tires as soon as i get it back, prob form tire rack, somthing like the Blizzarcks. O and yes as of right now thats the way it will be handled mine will pay for mine and hers will pay for hers. But im going to see if that makes ne difference bout her eyes being closed when she saw me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddseth Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Your eyes should have been closed when you got out of the car and took a look at her. She looks like a dog. Probably yelled at you because she had to take her fat aggression out on somebody... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytech Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Blame the town... They should have a sign prohibiting curbside parking when the road is snow covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnertheCat Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Blame the town... They should have a sign prohibiting curbside parking when the road is snow covered. Now that sounds like a plan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 AW! A '99 SUS! Bummer. If it makes you feel any better, I hit ice and muffed up my bumper a while back. It was an easy repair, I put on the new bumper myself. Spent $250 and then made some upgrades. Obviously it would be more difficult for you since you have a bit more damage than I did. Its funny I remember going to get an estimate at the local Subaru?Caddy/Dodge dealer and being apalled that a new fog light cost $130 and the writer told me that he had a Stratus in that needed a new bumper, which costs $600 for some reason. So I feel bad for the woman that you hit. Hills are dangerous. I remember thinking I was gonna end up in someones front year this one time. Thank Subaru for the ABS that undoubtely prevented me from doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 And your Legacy definately took this accident alot better than the Stratus did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaycy Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 And your Legacy definately took this accident alot better than the Stratus did. Quality Vs Quantity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimace Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 Yea and the sad part is were supposed to get like 3-5in of snow tonite and another 2-4 tomorrow and i cant drive my subaru:mad:. DAMN IT!!! Now i gotta drive our big ass toyota 4runner but atleast it has an aggressive tire with 4WD i guess. but i still miss it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlingXShot Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I avoided like 50 accidents because I reacted fast enuf some of my fault and some not. But women tend to react slower and take less evasive manuevers. For example, I had many incidents where cars were coming right into me and I had to avoid them. So that accident could have been avoided if I was her..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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