Knight705 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 looks like wagons are slowly making a comeback. guess the uber rising cost of gas is finally making ppl realize that wagons are the way to go as far as people hauler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSPECB STI Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 They said the VE platform was designed to support an AWD system, so it is possible. But initially I think RWD will be the only choice. Mate Holden have not even introduced AWD for their cars in Australia yet! Why do you think we buy imported Subaru's. Holden have improved their cars substantially in the last 3-5 years but as many Aussies will tell you when discussing the Holden Flagship Car - Commodore you are just another Commonwhore Driver, nothing special mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallguylehigh Posted November 20, 2007 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 Mate Holden have not even introduced AWD for their cars in Australia yet! Why do you think we buy imported Subaru's. Holden have improved their cars substantially in the last 3-5 years but as many Aussies will tell you when discussing the Holden Flagship Car - Commodore you are just another Commonwhore Driver, nothing special mate! http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=116468 "Holden claims its all-new VE Commodore sedan can accommodate an AWD system such as its own CrossTrac drivetrain, but it would appear to have all but ruled out a low-riding all-wheel-drive VE sedan due to lack of demand." So, as I said, it looks as though AWD is possible for the new VE platform, they haven't done it yet due to lack of demand. That might change when the VE comes to the US and Canada, which tends to have a cooler, snowier climate than Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Dodge will be bumping the 5.7 "hemi" in mid 08 so the magnum will have V8's of 370-380hp & the 6.1 bumped up to around 450hp. No they won't. The Magnum has been canceled by Chrysler's new management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 If the G8 would have been out when I bought my Legacy, I would of bought a G8. I mean come on, like 375 hp and a six speed in a car that looks just as good as a LGT.. I am amazed that an American car company is doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeTrout Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I wonder how much it will weigh? From the look of it, it will be as big as a Magnum, and while it is on the way back up, GM hardly has the chops right now to load it up with aluminum parts to keep it under 4000 lbs. In the end, with all that hp going to just the rear wheels, it's still going to be a land whale. At least it'll come in a manual. That killed the Charger/Magnum for me. Ich bin echt viel netter, wenn ich nuechtern bin. Echt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 MT, wagon, lots of power.... hard to give up AWD and go with GM.... but hmmm, I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirsimon Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Me likes the styling of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 MT, wagon, lots of power.... hard to give up AWD and go with GM.... but hmmm, I like it I couldnt do it. 1. No AWD (I hate RWD) 2. No MT 3. Its GM! 4. Last GM car we had was an Aurora with a Northstar V8. Kind of fast, beautiful sound: COMPLETELY DEAD AT 70,000 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Me likes the styling of it. Agreed. This is a huge step forward from the hackneyed and so very very tired Gran Prix. So just wait and we'll see the same design in Chevy form, Buick, and since Oldsmobile is gone, Saturn form. And then GM will be back to where there were last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexster Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 it does look good. too bad it will weigh a couple tons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenon expert Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Looks good but no AWD makes it a no go for me in Canada. RWD is nice is places like California. A little less fun in the middle of Januray with 2 feet of snow here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanKen Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Is this really gonna happen or just wishful thinking on the part of car fans starved of affordable wagons that don't suck? I'd hit it. 6MT, I'd hit it twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTSPECB STI Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 I am amazed that an American car company is doing this. well close it's a global company GM who owns an australian car manufacturer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease........ Keep it under 4000lb optioned out...even if it's 3999:) :lol: Sedan G8 is like 4200 with the V8. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperhawkLGT Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 G8 (not professional) http://zeusville.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/holden-commodore-ss-03-interior.jpgAnybody else catch this pic is just reversed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 :lol: Sedan G8 is like 4200 with the V8. Loaded G8 sedan is def. going to be under 4000lb according to Bob Lutz....... Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tytek Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Anybody else catch this pic is just reversed? Yep... good eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 Loaded G8 sedan is def. going to be under 4000lb according to Bob Lutz....... Pardon the extrapolation but the loaded V6 G6 is ~3550lbs... add the V8 and size and 4000 isn't out of the question at all. The GTO is ~3750 out of the box with fewer doors and less goodies than the upcoming G8. I thought that I had found a number on Pontiac's website but I guess I just pulled 4200 out of my...mybad. I guess 4000 isn't ... more like lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 rsportscars.com claims 3995 http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/pontiac_g8.asp lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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