bosco Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 How did you drill that fitting out? In reading bosco's install thread he mentioned this, but it seemed it would be difficult to do correctly, centered and all. Can it be done with hand tools or did it require a drill press, etc.? I think it is the better solution, personally, for the reason I mentioned as well as keeping it stock looking. i have over 3k miles on mine now no issues but i do agree for the money a AVO product sells for it should be perfect. all they would have to do is make the oil line 2" longer they must have a supplier that has the short ones in stock for less money so they use those instead of the proper lenght line. sad. bosco Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 I don't understand why they decided to use a larger banjo bolt, when there's an orifice in there anyway to reduce the oil flow. If they had just stuck with the stock size, it would have been a doddle. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 I don't understand either. A little thing like that will cost them sales on a good product. I got 20k on my AVO380 and no issues. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 It's all that fancy engineering - the shorter oil line promotes flow They really should fix it; makes their products look half-baked. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeeeeYa Posted October 16, 2007 Author Share Posted October 16, 2007 I used an 11.0 mm drill bit, but just put it through by hand slowly. Took a while but I thought it would snag if I used a power drill. Excellent! Thanks, I'm encouraged. One would think you knew what you were doing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 One would think you knew what you were doing . one would also think he does not own a drill press or a clamp. bosco Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 one would also think he does not own a drill press or a clamp. bosco I managed to install the turbo using nothing but an adjustable wrench and a hammer, why would I need these things you mention Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I managed to install the turbo using nothing but an adjustable wrench and a hammer, why would I need these things you mention that my friend is in the true spirit of hot rodding. well done. bosco Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeeeeYa Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share Posted November 13, 2007 Makes sense to me, and why I will leave my third port open. As I said, it vents the acutator's containment of pressurized air, effectively resetting its state to zero. The flow of air that will emit from it will be the sum of all the actuator's pressurized air, minus its ambient volumn, left when the BCS interrupts the input from the pressure source. If that port were capped the actuator would be left pressurized, holding the waste gate, to some degree or other, partially open, draining exhaust pressure and affecting boost control. Open, or vented through a hose to the intake, whichever, the actuactor's vented volumn of air is inconsequential to the operation of the motor. Returned to the intake nipple it reenters air being drawn into the turbo, and vented to atmosphere where it sits it reenters air being drawn into the turbo. Neither way will measurably affect anything. For those whose sensibilities are insulted by an open port, put a hose from it to the intake. OK..... Theory and reality meet . My own "sensibilities" could not tolerate my theorized configuration and I connected the PD BCS's third port to the intake. While I still believe it will make zero performance difference, it is decidedly more correct now. It was surprisingly easy, too. I used pieces removed from the stock BCS which fit perfectly after a slight hose trim. I'm sure LBGT is smiling. Also, due to information provided by MickeyD2005, bugblatterbeast, and LBGT who have made a quantum difference in the understanding and tuning of our boost control/PID system for our community, I was able to tune the Prodrive BCS inside an hour. Anyone who doubts the value of a blocking BCS has never explored the limits of the stock system. In less than an hour I had quicker boost, superior TD numbers, controlled overboost in higher gears, and tightly held boost targets. This is all on my maxed out VF40 setup, which had become a PITA as I tried to balance all my expectations with the stock BCS. Something else occurred that was never expected. My idle vacuum increased by one full integer. It suggests that the stock BCS had been leaking. I have checked it and it is not. Go figure. I wish I had done this long ago, I'd have saved wear and tear logging, lots of gasoline, and more frustration than a little. But then, I'd not have explored and learned the stock system as well. All this is academic relative to my present setup as I will be installing my AVO380 very shortly. My path was to install the AVO pump first, the Prodrive second, and DW injectors third prior to the turbo install. This way I can assimilate these elements separately into my existing tuning and have fewer variables when the turbo is installed. So far, so good. Again, my thanks to the above named individuals for their significant influence on understanding the tuning of boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanboy Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Anybody know any North American vendors that still have them? Stock is out at some places and with Prodrive leaving the US, figure prices will be going up shortly. -B http://www.standardshift.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Anybody know any North American vendors that still have them? Stock is out at some places and with Prodrive leaving the US, figure prices will be going up shortly. http://www.rallysportdirect.com Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeeeeYa Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 Search on eBay for Prodrive Boost Control, only one entry currently shows, and it is over in a few days. This is where I finally found the one I got in October after striking out everywhere else. www.flatironsimports.com is the place but the seller on ebay is fast-imports out of Boulder CO. Mine was shipped by Flatirons Acura/Subaru whose website is listed above. Price just $90 plus shipping ($99.00 for me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugblatterbeast Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 four stars had a box full the last time I was there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j255c Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 oakos.com 06 TB EVO IX SE stock turbo monster subaru hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoopMan Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Is the BCS really worth it for basic stage 2 then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeeeeYa Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 Is the BCS really worth it for basic stage 2 then? BASIC stage 2, maybe not, but when that stage 2 gets to the end of its rope, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoopMan Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Thanks Seeeeeeya I am the noob taking baby steps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05pearl Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Anybody know any North American vendors that still have them? Stock is out at some places and with Prodrive leaving the US, figure prices will be going up shortly. If the prodrive BCS will no longer be available, is there another bcs that will work as well that others can recommend? Perrin BCS, others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 I've heard the Perrin is noisy. Good question though. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator GT Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 oh crap...not Perrin. That can't be the only viable choice left, is it? "If we are to guard against ignorance and remain free, it is the responsibility of every American to be informed." - T. Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted February 7, 2008 Share Posted February 7, 2008 Gm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief_Wiggum Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Yes, he means the dark side (oh noes American parts!). From Freon's post at NASIOC: GM boost solenoid for Typhoon, GM Part # 1997152 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=870619 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05pearl Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Guys: I am using a DB 20G with AVO TMIC and WI. If I am not having any problems hitting boost with the stock BCS, are there any significant advantages for me to switch to a Prodrive BCS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Guys: I am using a DB 20G with AVO TMIC and WI. If I am not having any problems hitting boost with the stock BCS, are there any significant advantages for me to switch to a Prodrive BCS? Aboslutely none Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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