47ka Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 If you paid by credit card, you might want to check out the place where you purchased your oil - if they had you sign up your name and address like they made me do today, they may have a record of your purchases. Of course, if you bought stuff at different places then that presents another challenge. Did you ever take the car to the dealer? If you did, I imagine that checking the oil might be something that they would be expected to do in the course of a normal service. Best of luck. I hope you can work this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toburke Posted April 24, 2007 Author Share Posted April 24, 2007 SOA is going to call me tomorrow. The car has 34k on it. The last time it was at the dealer was this summer to get the headlights fixed under warranty. I'd imagine that was probably about 10k miles ago. I have no idea if they checked the oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 No, they say no coverage and then you have to sue SOA and then you have to win. The attorney general would have no interest in this contractual dispute. Don't tell him that! Laws vary from state to state. In RI, if you refuse warranty coverage, and the customer calls the AG office they shoot down here like Miss Piggy going after Kermit the frog. Also, there may be a Dealers Comission and License board in your state you can go to. They will litigate and the outcome is contractually binding. This may take some time, so in the interest if getting your wheels back, you may want to go the used route and sue later. IMO, go with a used motor. Most salvage yards will put a 3/36 warranty on the motor for an extra 100-150 bucks. Bastard Dealerships. I hate em, they give us all a bad name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Don't tell him that! Laws vary from state to state. In RI, if you refuse warranty coverage, and the customer calls the AG office they shoot down here like Miss Piggy going after Kermit the frog. Also, there may be a Dealers Comission and License board in your state you can go to. They will litigate and the outcome is contractually binding. This may take some time, so in the interest if getting your wheels back, you may want to go the used route and sue later. IMO, go with a used motor. Most salvage yards will put a 3/36 warranty on the motor for an extra 100-150 bucks. Bastard Dealerships. I hate em, they give us all a bad name. Fair enough - go for it Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Effin Ponderous Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 I also spotted a compltete engine and tranny for $4500 with 8K on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach V Dan Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Regrettably, I hadn't checked the oil level in a while. I don't really remember the last time, but the last change was a little over 4k ago. Regardless of when you changed the oil, it's your responsibility to keep oil in the engine. If there was only a quart in there, that's low enough that damage to the turbo could have been caused by oil starvation. It doesn't really matter WHY the oil burned or leaked out. As to changing your own oil -- just keep a little log book with notes about when and what you did. That's enough proof to satisfy your warranty requirements. "4/3/07, changed oil and filter. Valvoline 10-30, Subaru filter." --Dan Mach V FastWRX.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Fair enough - go for it Hey rao, since your the "Serial Engine Swapper" hook him up with a 3cyl Justy swap:lol: :lol: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexylegacy Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 I keep very detailed notes in the back of my owner's manual about every single oil change I do for this exact reason. I even keep the receipts from subaru for every subaru oil filter and 5 quarts of Redline 5W30 I buy from them. I detail what day of what year, what mileage, what filter, oil, and how much I used. I hope this all goes well for you. If they can take a sample of what is left of your oil, they should be able to have it analyzed to estimate it's approximate age to give you some sort of proof of how many miles it has seen. That might satisfy Subaru then. Sounds like you've got a few months without your baby ahead of you, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opie Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 what is the correct advice? The correct advice is in the owners manual... Cliff Notes: Maintenance is the customer's responsibility. Warranty requires that you perform the recommended maintenance be performed as per the maintenance schedule. The customer is responsible to keep records of all maintenance performed. The customer is responsible to check the engine oil level at every fuel fill-up. It's all in there...and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobE Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 i think this thread now requires one of these . http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 This reminds me why even though it is not cheap (about 65 bucks a shot) I have had every oil change except one done by the dealer, I had one done by jiffy lube and the monkey brains but the crush ring IN the oil filter . I put out the extra cash to get an extended warranty and while I may do an UP/DP eventually in the meantime if there is any problems with my car I have full service records from date of purchase, all except one were done by a dealer (and one very nice one by Opie's dealer in FL) And really except when its like -30 how hard is it to check your oil at fillups? However on toburke's side, shouldnt the OIL light have gone on way before it got down to only having a quart? If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr7kid Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 65 bucks for your dealer to do an oil change!? Here they'll do it for like 30, and since that's only 5 bucks more than doing it myself I think it's money well spent to build a good relationship with the dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goboom Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 My dealer charges $17.95 for an oil change (oil, filter, ring and external wash) which is lower than even Walmart. The service manager's philosophy is that he wants to be able to catch problems before the get to engine replacement. He also wants to show that the dealership is not out to hose people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toburke Posted April 25, 2007 Author Share Posted April 25, 2007 shouldnt the OIL light have gone on way before it got down to only having a quart? I asked the service guy this and he basically said that sometimes the light freezes. I plan on bringing this up when I talk to SOA tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhsa Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 i'm taking pics now of every bit of maintenance i do to back up my written documentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 65 bucks for your dealer to do an oil change!? Here they'll do it for like 30, and since that's only 5 bucks more than doing it myself I think it's money well spent to build a good relationship with the dealer. Full Synthetic If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toburke Posted April 25, 2007 Author Share Posted April 25, 2007 Just talked to SOA. They are going to talk to the dealer again, but by the way she was talking, it's not looking good. About the no oil/CEL, she said that it is triggered by the oil pressure, not level, and there still could've been oil pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawl Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 this isnt the first time i've heard of mobil 1 disappearing. My miata has done that twice. No leaks, no nothing. Put regular dino back into it and havent lost much oil since. Also what exacerbates this problem is that synthetics advertise longer oil change intervals...... meaning you are even MORE likely to run out (if you are to begin with) you guys can call BS on mobil1 disappearing but it happened twice in my car, a few times on these forums. That is good enough proof for me. I'm putting regular in both my cars now.. car for sale. PM me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted April 25, 2007 Share Posted April 25, 2007 Lol im going to check my oil before i leave work If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlsb Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 this isnt the first time i've heard of mobil 1 disappearing. My miata has done that twice. No leaks, no nothing. Put regular dino back into it and havent lost much oil since. +1:mad: Also what exacerbates this problem is that synthetics advertise longer oil change intervals...... meaning you are even MORE likely to run out (if you are to begin with) you guys can call BS on mobil1 disappearing but it happened twice in my car, a few times on these forums. That is good enough proof for me. I'm putting regular in both my cars now.. "Belief does not make truth. Evidence makes truth. And belief does not make evidence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legasee Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I stopped using Mobile1 cuz I was losing 1/2 to 3/4 quart for every oil change on the GT In Taiwan now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4S-TURBO Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 get a lawyer. the car was running when you dropped it off at the dealership. it wasn't running while in their care. the technicals of how a turbo can lose three quarts of oil in a day, or in 5 minutes, will come out in a claim. if the regional rep were smart, they would personally see to it that you are satisfied with a compromise, before you get a lawyer. if your car was towed to the dealership...that would be a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosubaru Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Sorry to hear that. It actually happened to quite a few 03-04 audi and one of my friend was a victim and ended up paying over $6k to replace the engine. This also happened to one of our lgt members but luckily SOA stepped in to resolve the mess. Check this out: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58674 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfxdave99 Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Any updates? If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toburke Posted May 1, 2007 Author Share Posted May 1, 2007 Waiting on another call back from SOA. I'll probably call them if I haven't heard anything by this afternoon. This is taking longer then expected. Good thing I have a car to drive in the mean time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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