mycl Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 The jap spec manual GT ( in nz ) apparently does 0-100 in 5.57 secs! Awesome... And that's on 98RON fuel in nz? (Or 0-100 times lifted from japan?) If thats on 98RON, then why does Australia get their GT's de-spec'ed? ... "New for Legacy Gen IV is Active Valve Control, Sube-speak for variable valve timing. Drive-by-wire throttle is novel too, as are 80 per cent of the engine components. Power and torque figures are the same as for B4 at 206 kW and 343 Nm, but the latter arrives at 2400 rpm instead of 5000. With around 40 per cent better grunt down low, small wonder the performance figures are just a gnat's member behind the Impreza STi, the GT hustling through to 100 km/h in 5.57 seconds, and on to 120 from 80 in 3.44 seconds. Bang for buck takes a real hike." Here's the website... [url]http://motoring.nzoom.com/motoring_detail/0,2734,224843-388-389,00.html[/url] Cheers, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimil Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 Great find :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zevil Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 Ours is gonna be faster.. :D .. I just have a feeling about that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ20H-TT Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 If thats on 98RON, then why does Australia get their GT's de-spec'ed? The only reason i can think is the hotter temperatures in Aussie. I was talking yesterday to an owner of a WRX Sti 22b - whose second car is a 04 Legacy GT wagon. He said the wagon was very fast - with the low down torque it was a real sleeper at the lights. He commented that the twin scroll in his opinion was lacking at the top end. He didn't think it handled as good as his 22b and his previous Sti Ra. Overall however he was very happy with the wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 That is the general consensus with twin-scrolls units about the top-end. I wouldn't expect it to handle as well as a 22B or STi RA model! They're just made for different things, though it's still pretty well set up. I'd love to see pics of that guys cars together. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team23jordan Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 please dont say "jap version" that is rascist way to call japanese people Perrin BIG maf intake Perrin Turbo Inlet HKS SSQV BOV Megan Racing header with UP (ceramic coated) HKS DP (WRX) DMH E-cutout Custom 3" catback UTEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolbluelb Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Does anyone truely feel his comments were made with racial intent? I find this notion laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 [quote name='coolbluelb']Does anyone truely feel his comments were made with racial intent? I find this notion laughable.[/quote] I didn't think it had racial intent.. It was not like he was talking about a person. I think it is a simple abbreviation. -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycl Posted March 29, 2004 Author Share Posted March 29, 2004 maybe JDM is the more acceptable politically correct version... but i couldnt be f'ed typing the whole word.... or is it b/c rural Australians get only 95 ron.... is 98 ron widespread in rural nz? (or is that a superfluous adjective??) :P :D Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ20H-TT Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 I suspose it's as available as it is in Hickstown, USA ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ20H-TT Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 (or is that a superfluous adjective??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 I don't think any racial intent was implied, so lets not get all bent over this. Lets just move on folks, nothing to see here. Don't make me pull out the magic potion and whipe these comments from this section. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team23jordan Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 some japanese people can take that as racial thing i know he was mentioning about japanese cars and was lazy(?) to type "japanese" so i was just making a point there anyways im not pleased with 5.57 i thought it was gonna be faster(stock) Perrin BIG maf intake Perrin Turbo Inlet HKS SSQV BOV Megan Racing header with UP (ceramic coated) HKS DP (WRX) DMH E-cutout Custom 3" catback UTEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ20H-TT Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Faster your hard to please ! JDM spec for the PC 01 WRX STi Ra 5.30 seconds 03 WRX Sti 5.28 " S401 6.50 " Nissan 350z 6.24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Quit your bench racing fellas and wait for the real thing. I know it will be plenty quick for starters at least, much faster than most machines on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexjapan Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 You have to look at the times for other cars that that magazine/tester got, not look at it as a definitive number. If it got a 5.57 in comparison to a 5.4 for a Spec C STi from that tester, for example, it's more than plenty quick. Of all testers, the American magazines are the fastest. Possibly because they know that a fast 0-60 is all that is needed to sell some cars. All in, if it was a RWD with that power, it would be spinning the rears through the first two gears, if not first three. If it was FWD, probably the first 4 gears. ;) Cheers, Paul Hansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 [quote name='SUBE555']I don't think any racial intent was implied, so lets not get all bent over this. Lets just move on folks, nothing to see here. Don't make me pull out the magic potion and whipe these comments from this section. ;)[/quote] Sube is right (must be those magical moderator powers), but perhaps JDM, for Japanese Domestic Market can be used to designate Japan market cars, rather than the term in question. We do want to keep this one big happy family, after all. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 [quote name='team23jordan']some japanese people can take that as racial thing i know he was mentioning about japanese cars and was lazy(?) to type "japanese" so i was just making a point there anyways im not pleased with 5.57 i thought it was gonna be faster(stock)[/quote] Faster??!! :lol: What were you expecting, a rocket sled? The Legacy is a GT in the old-school, grand tourer style. Those cars are typically one shift to 60 mph, fast but not super fast, and nicely appointed so that you will be comfortable as you hustle down the road. GTs are never as fast as pure sports cars, but they are a lot more comfortable. The Legacy GT is the first Legacy GT that is an actual, real-life GT. 5.5 seconds is a smackdown for that kind of car. I'm thrilled. We know that it will be faster than the WRX, and in the hands of a good driver, driving a WRX at 6/10ths will land you in prison. :lol: Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zevil Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Yea, How the hell did you expect it to be faster? That's so freakin' fast that it's silly? What do you drive now? That kind of power can kill you very quickly. If you are looking for a faster car then the GT isn't for you. If you think you are going to find something that is comfortable and faster than this GT then you willo drop about $50K on a bmw or something. My WRX is fast enough for me.. I am looking for something bigger and more refined. if I wanted faster I would get an STi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 [quote name='Dr. Zevil']Yea, How the hell did you expect it to be faster? That's so freakin' fast that it's silly? What do you drive now? That kind of power can kill you very quickly. If you are looking for a faster car then the GT isn't for you. If you think you are going to find something that is comfortable and faster than this GT then you willo drop about $50K on a bmw or something. My WRX is fast enough for me.. I am looking for something bigger and more refined. if I wanted faster I would get an STi.[/quote] Well said. -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha-evolution Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Faster is always better IMO but I'd be happy with 5.57 or anything under six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolbluelb Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 SOA's website is not working properly, but I thought power to weight ratios between the WRX and the Legacy GT went in the GT's favor. I know this is a rehash of a rehash until we have more info, but shouldn't that translate to faster than 5.4 0-60? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ20H-TT Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Well thats the prob with just going off peak hp figures. The JDM legacy I believe has been tuned more to the low to mid range. While the WRX Sti mid to top end. Of course gearing as another issue. A big factor is how were the cars launched ? Was it the same surface, tyres etc etc ? A cooler day - as a rule of thumb every 4 degrees C lower = 1% increase in peak power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha-evolution Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 True but power to weight is probably a better indicator of performance than just focusing on 0-60 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteVTEC Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Keep in mind that there is a noticeable difference between 0-60 mph and 0-62 mph performance times. In general, 0-60 times are about two to three-tenths quicker than 0-62, depending on how strongly a car will accelerate. I have no clue where these things will dyno at, but if a manual 2.5GT will do about 190 awtq, you can caluclate its accelerate as.... awtq x 2nd gear ratio x final drive = total thrust / weight = acceleration So we have... 190 awtq x 1.882 x 4.11 = 1469 lbs thrust / 3200 lbs weight = 0.459g's acceleration That converts to about 10 mph per second. So to gain an additional 2 mph, it will take it about 0.2s. So the 0-62 in 5.57s figure would theoretically be 0-60 in about 5.37s. Happier now? :wink: Oops...I forgot that we need to figure in driver weight also. Call it at 160lbs. Now we get 0.437g's of acceleration which comes out to 9.6 mph/sec. That makes it 0.208s greater for 62 mph instead of 0.200 so just round and subtract another hundredth off. 0-60 in 5.36s. How's that for bench racing? :D Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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