hogmeat Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I'm with Curry - the 5 speed is just right. 6 Speeds are excessive. I mean, oh good, I get to shift into 3rd to putz around town. Joy. Or, better get, 4th to follow traffic at 35. Or having to shift even quicker than I do now? No thanks. Give me the 5 speed with a 6th gear tacked on at a lower RPM - waaay lower. Like drop your RPM's to 2500 from 3500 at 80mph... I'm pleasantly surprised... It was most certainly worth the couple bucks and 10 mins of my time. CLICK HERE FOR THE HOGZAUST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmarko Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 This thread = teh suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaWolverine Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 +1, that's my gripe about the current 6 spd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Pimp Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I find the 5 speed is fine for me. In fact I removed one gear and have a 4 speed now. The less I have to shift, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookslikeanevo Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 for the record, i am well above 60 when i hit redline in second Current:MY05 SWP wagon - 253/290 UP, AEM CAI, Invidia Q300, tuned@yimisport OLD: MY06 GRP - 274/314 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeTrout Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 For drag racing, the 5mt is better. If you're driving a lot of twisty roads, a 6 speed is generally better. More gears means better gear choice into a corner, more precise throttle steering. There is a reason, after all. Or do manufacturers like Ferrari, Porsche, and Lotus like to add weight for no good reason? Ich bin echt viel netter, wenn ich nuechtern bin. Echt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legandrex Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 If Subaru doesn't put a 6 speed in it Car and Driver will have another thing to bitch about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 ~100mph driving figures more heavily into Ferrari, Porsche, and Lotus design decisions than into Subaru design decisions, so it's not really a direct comparison. I do agree that a 6th-gear overdrive would be cool for open interstates. I did a small spreadsheet with the 5MT and 6MT ratios (transmisson & final drive) but can't find it right now. The new 6th gear is somewhat higher than the old 5th gear, though I don't recall exactly how much. I posted it on another thread here a week or two ago though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas751 Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 dds96, There is more to life than 0-60 drag races and shaving 1/10 second off of a 0-60 time. You can smoke your tires with your 2005 GT, good for you. I have a 2006 Spec B and would never try that for fear or breaking something. As for the 2007, and the 6 speed, I will say that the extra gears are nice to have when in flowing traffic. You can have precisely the correct gear so that you can cruise in the opower curve and squirt through traffic. As for drag racing, you are correct. One more shift will make the car slower from 0-60. A Mustang would be a much better car for smoking tires and drag racing. Much cheaper also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWP-LegacyGT Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 My 5EAT is faster than a '07 Spec B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraysonSubaru Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Many times my car has gone past 60 in second gear and not panging off the rev limiter. i can run to about 65mph in 2nd gear in the WRX, but i dont know if stage 2 set up changes how that works or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rony Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I hit 60 in 2nd gear and get no where near my rev limiter. This thread is pointless. My Car vBGarage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I love my tranny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I have a stock '05 gt limited wagon and it is faster and better than a '07 spec b. I will explain. I test drove the spec b saturday and I am unimpressed. The six speed is pointless. One has to shift to third year to get to 60mph. I could not drop the clutch to get a fast start. The "computer" cuts of the clutch to prevent you from "damaging" the transmission. Has anyone else experienced this? The brake feel, gauges, and clutch are definitely better, but I bet that 0-60 mph is better on my '05. Does anyone have any insight into this significant change in the driving experience? I think it must be due to warranty issues with the clutch. I can smoke the tires on my car, but I could not get this spec b to do the same. Why is everyone so impressed by a 6 speed transmission? Maybe they enjoy playing with their "stick" as much as possible. One looses several 1/10 of seconds in the shifting process. So if one has to shift to 3rd to get to 60 than you will get to that speed about a 1/4 to 1/2 second slower. I would like to get some input from someone with a better understanding of manual trans or gearing ratios. A STI or a WRX would suit you much better than a Legacy. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudy Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 0-60 is completely pointless, who races to a speed? How quick and at what speed you're at after a particular distance is far more interesting. Hence 1/4 mile ET and trap speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirsimon Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I love my 6-speed. As others have pointed out, it is perfect for carving up twisty roads. Also, for those who say that they wouldn't like the 6-speed because they don't want to have to shift all the time, you can easily skip shifts on the (close-ratio) 6-speed. In "normal" driving (in traffic), I commonly shift 1-3-4 or 1-2-4. Getting onto a 50MPH 2 lane road I often go 1-3-6. And as for acceleration, you may not win a drag race in the 6-speed (not my personal goal), but one can accelerate quite briskly by shifting 1-3-4. If you shift at high RPM in 1st, when you hit 3rd the RPM is right there at the start of the power band. I'll have to check on the exact RPM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansGT Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I would love to keep my tranny and have a nice 6th gear to get 30mpg on the freeway. Keep the same ratios up to the 6th because I like em. 5th is too high on the freeway for long trips. AP stage 1 + fuel magic = 28-30mpg hwy 4 me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlsb Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 would love to keep my tranny and have a nice 6th gear to get 30mpg on the freeway. Keep the same ratios up to the 6th because I like em You mean like an overdrive. The final drive ratio is what counts. Manufactures frequently add another gear, but the final drive ratio remains the same, ala Spec B ! "Belief does not make truth. Evidence makes truth. And belief does not make evidence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandman Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 For drag racing, the 5mt is better. If you're driving a lot of twisty roads, a 6 speed is generally better. More gears means better gear choice into a corner, more precise throttle steering. There is a reason, after all. Or do manufacturers like Ferrari, Porsche, and Lotus like to add weight for no good reason? Go to the head of the class! Who Dares Wins スバル Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmeat Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 dds96, There is more to life than 0-60 drag races and shaving 1/10 second off of a 0-60 time. You can smoke your tires with your 2005 GT, good for you. I have a 2006 Spec B and would never try that for fear or breaking something. They why did you buy a fast car? Don't be a sissy! Light the tires every now and then. Wake up and smell the burning clutch!! I'm pleasantly surprised... It was most certainly worth the couple bucks and 10 mins of my time. CLICK HERE FOR THE HOGZAUST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Adamaxus you are full of sh#$. Many times my car has gone past 60 in second gear and not panging off the rev limiter. +1 my datalogs show 62-63 mph at around 6800 rpm MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
700watts Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 for the record.........I love to play with my stick as much as possible. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I am a street racer. http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6910/owned1nw.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 http://k43.pbase.com/t1/07/362307/4/59294746.streetracer.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubiGT Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 http://k43.pbase.com/t1/07/362307/4/59294746.streetracer.jpg Wow, it looks like SO much fun!!! We should all try it really soon:) Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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