LGT ben Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 hi iwas wondering if there is a intake or any other minor mods for my 98' lgt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97GTLegacy Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Yes check out Injen.com and cosmo racing.com. They both make a cold air intake for the car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlegacygt Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 yeah they have them, but dont get one, save your money and get headers or exhaust first. t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlegacygt Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 there's also cheap ways of having an effective intake... sent you pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 there's also cheap ways of having an effective intake... sent you pm What? Drilling holes in the air box????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subiedad Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 'My' example:icon_cool I hope I remember everything.... Short Ram Intake Nology Hotwires plug wires Denso Iridium plugs Hyper(!)Ground (self-made 4ga) Perrin Pulley Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel Spec Stage 3+ clutch OBX Short Shifter STi engine/tranny mounts Borla Header Stromung Catless 'track' pipe Sti high pressure radiator cap IPD Front sway/Perrin end links Whiteline Rear sway, HD mounts & end links Fr/ Rr upper strut tower bars Rear lower bar JDM Projector beam headlights I did/installed all of the above mods myself, except for the pulley, and the flywheel/clutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlegacygt Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 well first off, the ebay air intakes work fine and they are only $30. just make sure you get the one for your car. Also, If you just got the pipe, u could run it into the stock airbox, with a K&N pannel filter and do and remove airboxes in the fender. Im just saying, u dont have to go out and spend a alot of money when you can do it others ways for alot less.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97GTLegacy Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 cold air is the only way to go! the bolt on pipes with a filter just suck in hot air form the engine bay loosing horse power. jmo\ also getting headers and exhaust first is irrelevent . the sequence doesnt matter just as long as you do exhaust you do the intake also. you suck more air / you need to get rid of more air. just doing the intake first does nothing to comlement the exhaust or vis versa. Its the complete package that counts. plus headers will make a difference but not a $300 difference. I just did a full catback with the cold air and noticed nice throttle response and bettter topend . The intake was 120.00 and the exhaust 255 with muffler. I have a friend that owns a tuner shop and got the muffler real cheap. skunk2 for a $100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 cold air is the only way to go! the bolt on pipes with a filter just suck in hot air form the engine bay loosing horse power. Which is why I opened up my hood scoop. I know I know, drag, but really its no more than stickin your hand out the sunroof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MannyLegacy Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I remember when I first picked up my wagon. I threw a "Weapon R" Intake on it. Sounded GREAT, but whenever I "Punched' it I would get a stall/hesitation from the engine. I guess because I took off the Air resevour from the Original Intake setup. Now the engine no longer had that Pocket of Air that it could use for when It needed it right away. Sorry for the rambling. In short, I ended up taking it off like in a week or so. When I hooked up headers and a Cat back exhaust I definitely notice a difference, plus a GREAT Exhaust note :munch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Thats interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MannyLegacy Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 If you go onto NASIOC and go into the Legacy Forum, you can do a search and you'll see that alot of guys had this issue :munch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I replaced my airbox with a cone filter. Nice improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MannyLegacy Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I replaced my airbox with a cone filter. Nice improvement. Ahhh, That's what most of the BD/BG guys end up doing :munch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetItSnow Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I've yet to hear a solid explanation of why this "gulp" of air would make a difference, or to see any dyno evidence supporting it. Consider the volume of the box, and how fast that's depleted. Consider that the rest of the system is of a smaller, and physically restrictive shape. I can only see that it's a home for a panel filter. Underhood air isn't so hot when you're under motion, either. A guy on another forum (NASIOC?) found via experimentation that you're looking at maybe 2-3 degrees difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougeben83 Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 I've yet to hear a solid explanation of why this "gulp" of air would make a difference, or to see any dyno evidence supporting it. Consider the volume of the box, and how fast that's depleted. Consider that the rest of the system is of a smaller, and physically restrictive shape. I can only see that it's a home for a panel filter. Underhood air isn't so hot when you're under motion, either. A guy on another forum (NASIOC?) found via experimentation that you're looking at maybe 2-3 degrees difference. Well, like it or not, the "torquebox" does seem to help with even-ing out the power delivery in the lower revs. I think if you search the N/A forums on NASOIC, you'll find some extensivediscussions and a couple of dyno charts comparing the stock and aftermarket intakes, and a modified stock intake. Anyway, us MAP guys got it lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MannyLegacy Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Well, like it or not, the "torquebox" does seem to help with even-ing out the power delivery in the lower revs. I think if you search the N/A forums on NASOIC, you'll find some extensivediscussions and a couple of dyno charts comparing the stock and aftermarket intakes, and a modified stock intake. Anyway, us MAP guys got it lucky :munch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Well I opened up my hoodscoop. It helps. Cant wait for it to get cold out and see how it runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougeben83 Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 if you guys really want to use the scoop, get like a 45" silicone bend and mount the front half of the airfilter directly under hood - WRX-intercooler style. Search for gravelsport intake in rs25.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetItSnow Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Well, like it or not... There's no question of "like". The fact of the matter is that calling this box a "torque box" is just as loose a label as "boxer rumble", which is entirely untrue besides. ...the "torquebox" does seem to help with even-ing out the power delivery in the lower revs. I'm really not concerned with what it "seems" to do. I want to know what it does do. I think if you search the N/A forums on NASOIC, you'll find some extensive discussions and a couple of dyno charts comparing the stock and aftermarket intakes, and a modified stock intake. I did find this one, which shows that even the lowly eBay intake outperforms the alleged "torque box" on a non-butt dyno. All I'm asking for is a reasonable explanation in fluid dynamics of how that box does anything more than hold a flat-panel filter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aczwild Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 All I'm asking for is a reasonable explanation in fluid dynamics of how that box does anything more than hold a flat-panel filter? Well a loose explanation would be with a equi-diameter air intake pipe, the flow is relatively constant through the pipe, where the car was designed to have the flow disperse right before the throttle body in the air box (calling it a torque box is just idiodic). Also the little "arm" tube that sticks off the stock intake piping would create a vacuum as the air flows across and into the air box prior to the throttle body which wold act as a control to how much air would flow into the throttle body depending on how far open the throttle is. The only problem I can see is how the MAF is calculating the mixture and how an aftermarket tube would screw that mixture up since the airflow is different. I have a GP-Moto intake on my GT and the problem that I have is I can pretty much flood and stall out the engine if I stop on it from a stand still. Other than that, I have no complaints the 40-60 acceleration is awesome and the car is a bit more fun if you can watch your RPMs JDM'd All to hell Thanks Jimmy @ Hkc-Speed.com! RIP Coxx & Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97GTLegacy Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 That little arm in the intake is for noise. By putting it there it cuts down on the intake sound. and for the box i think its a joke. I put a cold air on my legacy and I have no problems or hesitations the care takes off fine and pull awesome on the top end. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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