Beanboy Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 With the weight of each new generation of cars seemingly gaining hundreds of pounds, nice to see the new Legacy (and Forester), while bigger, is actually lighter than the last generation. Kudos Subaru! -B -B http://www.standardshift.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 ;) Most people think the new GT is heavier, what most don't see is that the 2.5i Limited most closely resembles the old 2.5GT. Nice to see some can pick it out. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken S Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 Yup. Weight reduction was one of Subaru's goal when designing the current Legacy. Not only does it weigh less than the previous generation, it's got a lower CG as well. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 [quote name='Ken S']Yup. Weight reduction was one of Subaru's goal when designing the current Legacy. Not only does it weigh less than the previous generation, it's got a lower CG as well. Ken[/quote] The aerodynamics have been revised as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAP Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 It is about 500 lb heavier than the 1st legacy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted August 30, 2004 Share Posted August 30, 2004 [quote name='DAP']It is about 500 lb heavier than the 1st legacy though.[/quote] That has absolutely no relevance whatsoever. Nice random fact though! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanboy Posted August 31, 2004 Author Share Posted August 31, 2004 True that DAP, but I was going from generation to generation comparision. Nice to see the bloat has at least halted, and even backed up a bit, especially with a car that is phsysically larger and packing much more power along with the larger wheels, brakes, etc... In fact, has any other car lost weight from one generation to the next? I can't think of any off the top of my head. -B -B http://www.standardshift.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Which model are you comparing DAP? It's not 500lbs heavier over here at least in turbo trim. ;) Just for a ballpark figure, a 1993 Legacy Sport Turbo Sedan ([url=http://www.edmunds.com/used/1993/subaru/legacy/8948/specs.html?tid=edmunds.u.prices.leftsidenav..6.Subaru*]Edmunds doesn't say if Auto or Manual[/url]), but it's listed as 3,180 pounds. Now I don't know where you guys are coming from, but a new base GT Sedan doesn't weigh 3,680lbs. Maybe a decked-out Outback, but not a base GT sedan. ;) Less than 100lbs more in all actuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 I think that is a great fact but with weight savings comes the cost as we all know. Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 I think it's a small price to pay. My 05 GT only cost a little more then my 00 GT compared to the gains. you won't hear me complaining. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it.  Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Yup max, there is a lot more car in that little more weight. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemani Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 So that's why there are so many plastic screws and taps on the car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAP Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 It was a 91 legacy sedan automatic with 4wd (you could get fwd at that time). Also at that time there was no turbo available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno1453 Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 And just think about how much weight all the airbags and associated electronics and such must add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 [quote name='Bruno1453']And just think about how much weight all the airbags and associated electronics and such must add.[/quote] US bumper beams too :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken S Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 [quote name='Drift Monkey'][quote name='Bruno1453']And just think about how much weight all the airbags and associated electronics and such must add.[/quote] US bumper beams too :P[/quote] And the all-important feature for USDM cars: cupholders. :lol: Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 [quote name='DAP']It was a 91 legacy sedan automatic with 4wd (you could get fwd at that time). Also at that time there was no turbo available.[/quote] DAP, look [url=http://www.cars101.com/subaru_legacy_archive.html#1991]HERE[/url]. I know the turbo Legs were in production from 1991 to 1994. Also the car you list was still nowheres near a variance of 500lbs. The base Auto AWD model is listed as 3,060lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 I just thought about this last night, the USDM front and back bars remind me of the new Lancer from Mitsu, they are huge and that is the only thing I could certainly compare the bars in the US with. Has anyone else seen these and what are yr thoughts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher W Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 Weight savings is a lovely thing. Just for the hell of it, I looked up some models that could be considered competitors to a LGT. A Honda Accord V6 coupe, Acura TSX, Lexus IS300 and BMW 325 are all within 50 lbs of a GT; the Accord is actually a smidgen heavier. This is despite all those cars being designed without the extra mass an AWD system necessitates. Need I mention that these all lose out to the LGT in both power and torque too? Step up to a Infiniti and there's approximately a 100lb weight penalty by going with a G35 (which increases to about 300lbs of pork if you opt for the AWD G35X variant). Cross the street to a Volkswagen dealership and you'll have to contend with an AWD Passat that, like the G35x, has 300 lbs of cheeze whiz remnants around its tummy to haul about. Yup, lots to love about the Scooby. 8) -CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 I like the bumpers Adam, not much change at all from previous models. All Subarus and most other models use the larger bumpers to meet safety and crash test requirements here in the states and Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted September 1, 2004 Share Posted September 1, 2004 I don't like the bumper covers Adam, the USA gets owned again. I think we may be stuck with them for a while here too as th JDM units look to be a pretty penny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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