trabbic Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 I like the idea of having the shifting on the left and the volume control on the right. I think we could probably do that, do you have a multimeter? We need to know the resistance in Ohms that the shift buttons send to the computer, and make sure that they are different during button presses, and the same when nothing is being pressed. Here is how to do this: Take off the airbag as I described. Unplug the green plug. Check the resistance between holes 2 and 4 when looking at the plug from the left to right. Your meter should give you something around 4.7k Ohms, and that should change when you press shift up and shift down. Report back here with those numbers, and I will make sure that they are not the same as the radio controls. The other thing to consider is that we will have to modify your steering wheel wiring harness to make sure that all signals are sent down the correct pathways and then use that multimeter to find the signals to tap them, at the harness side. This would be custom, and different than my directions, but we should be able to figure it out. My vB Garage How to Install Steering Wheel Radio Controls Cubby Gauge Mounting Solutions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Jamie (Subie Gal) can ge the steering wheels (Spec B) for $286.00 and the switches alone for $82.25 and will honor these prices for LegGT forum members. A GB could hapen if there is enough interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Can anyone source up the conectors that go inside the plug? Pepboys or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadvw Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 I suppose you could cut at the harness side and then tap at the stereo side... You MIGHT be able to, in theory, have just say the volume controls and then have the other side to shift, but then U would loose the mode, and seek buttons. Also it would have to be determined what resistance the steering wheel shift buttons send out, and whether or not the stereo or transmission computer are effected by receiving this signal. I will try this on someones car if they want to come here to let me hack into it... ) Oh, I see. The two sets of controls do DIFFERENT things for the stereo. I thought it was a case of being duplicated like the shift controls... I am the only person to actually do this so far as far as I know... That may be the easiest solution, to pick one or the other... So, it's a question of what the computer (ECU?) sees and it then sends the control the stereo to "do the right thing"? So, it's NOT (as I thought before) just a straight connection from stereo control to stereo? That makes it much more complicated, IMHO. I've gotten so used to the shifting controls.. Here's a crazy thought: IF they can co-exist, hack out a bit more of the wheel, and put both stereo modules/buttons on the same side.. I know it wouldn't look that great Honestly, if it's a choice of either or, I'm keeping the shifting.. Way too much fun HV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabbic Posted January 20, 2006 Author Share Posted January 20, 2006 Oh, I see. The two sets of controls do DIFFERENT things for the stereo. I thought it was a case of being duplicated like the shift controls... So, it's a question of what the computer (ECU?) sees and it then sends the control the stereo to "do the right thing"? So, it's NOT (as I thought before) just a straight connection from stereo control to stereo? That makes it much more complicated, IMHO. I've gotten so used to the shifting controls.. Here's a crazy thought: IF they can co-exist, hack out a bit more of the wheel, and put both stereo modules/buttons on the same side.. I know it wouldn't look that great Honestly, if it's a choice of either or, I'm keeping the shifting.. Way too much fun HV When wiring up the Radio controls the wires do go directly to the Stereo. But in an automatic the shift controls HAVE to go to the ECU (or TCU) for them to work correctly... My vB Garage How to Install Steering Wheel Radio Controls Cubby Gauge Mounting Solutions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadvw Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 When wiring up the Radio controls the wires do go directly to the Stereo. But in an automatic the shift controls HAVE to go to the ECU (or TCU) for them to work correctly... Ok, so then could I just wire one of the stereo control wires up to the stereo directly? Or would I run afoul of the (argh, forgot the name of the part - the thing that lets wires pass through the steering wheel)? Any way to run extra wires (The only steering wheel related work I've done has been to put a Momo wheel on two non-airbag VWs with the horn being the only thing actually going through the wheel)? HV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim L Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I would be in for a group buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim L Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Jamie (Subie Gal) can ge the steering wheels (Spec B) for $286.00 and the switches alone for $82.25 and will honor these prices for LegGT forum members. A GB could hapen if there is enough interest. didn't see this, how many would we have to get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc51373 Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Attention Moderator! This is sticky material.. And if you ask me Trabbic deserves a T-shirt or something. Sh*t! Guy is a hero in my book. Nice work kid! I may be contacting you if I get stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc51373 Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Actually, re-thought this after reading through the directions. They are awesome but lack the necessary info for 5EATs. We need a process for both...I may be the guinea pig on it eventually...No rush though until I know I can do it. My biggest question is what to do with the shift button wires once I figure out where to plug the stereo controls in. I need this mod, I can't take it anymore! So this is a work in process I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 didn't see this, how many would we have to get? I don't know, but I know I'm "IN" for a GB as well. No question, just sign me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 I'll sk Jamie tomorrow but that would make 3 so far, right? I'll start new thread as to not high-jack this one any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 I'd be in as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 I think Msmith would be as well....I'll drop him an email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opie Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Hmmm..... Steering Wheel Controls, .......... Front Brembo's , ........... Steering Wheel Controls, .......... Front Brembo's , ........... Steering Wheel Controls, .......... Front Brembo's , ........... Steering Wheel Controls, .......... Front Brembo's , ........... Steering Wheel Controls useful mod, not to expensive, Front Brembo's found an AWESOME price for the complete kit, useful mod that would look killer behind the Prodrives.... ...My wife's gonna kill me isn't she.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix96 Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 I'd be in on the Spec B steering wheel group buy as well. phoenix96 2006 Legacy GT Ltd · 2011 Outback 3.6R Ltd · 1992 SVX 2006 Outback 3.0R VDC · 2009 Forester 2.5X 2002 Outback VDC · 1996 Outback 2.5L · 1986 GL-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?p=441952#post441952 Opie, I'm on your boat. Got a set of fronts and now I'm looking for the rears with the help of edmundu. Please, post al related replys to the GB in the other thread and mods, feel free to clean up this thread tl leave the focus on the info posted by trabbic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I am very impressed!! under $400 too!! Nice work, and excellent write up!!! -Randy Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 how easy would it be to set off your airbag in your lap? My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabbic Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Actually, re-thought this after reading through the directions. They are awesome but lack the necessary info for 5EATs. We need a process for both...I may be the guinea pig on it eventually...No rush though until I know I can do it. My biggest question is what to do with the shift button wires once I figure out where to plug the stereo controls in. I need this mod, I can't take it anymore! So this is a work in process I guess. Buy it, and I will work with you to get the exact wire colors for the Automatic, it will still be pretty easy. Just take a picture of that white plug under the steering column, and post it up here, and I will tell you what wires to cut and where to tap. You will just tape up the other wires so you could always hook them back up if you needed to... My vB Garage How to Install Steering Wheel Radio Controls Cubby Gauge Mounting Solutions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabbic Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 how easy would it be to set off your airbag in your lap? You would have to do something really dumb, it is almost impossible. To be safe disconnect your battery. I just made sure that the ignition was off, that should disable the air bag system, but I offer no guarantees... Disconnect the battery and you'll be fine... My vB Garage How to Install Steering Wheel Radio Controls Cubby Gauge Mounting Solutions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Trabbic - out of curiosity, is the airbag/horn cover identical between the standard wheel for the manual and the wheel with the controls? I guess we're also yet to see if the Spec.B wheel will even be identical. Here's to hoping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc51373 Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 Buy it, and I will work with you to get the exact wire colors for the Automatic, it will still be pretty easy. Just take a picture of that white plug under the steering column, and post it up here, and I will tell you what wires to cut and where to tap. You will just tape up the other wires so you could always hook them back up if you needed to... Will do. I am going to order the POds this weekend from a local dealer or SubaruPartsforyou.com. Thanks bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabbic Posted January 24, 2006 Author Share Posted January 24, 2006 Trabbic - out of curiosity, is the airbag/horn cover identical between the standard wheel for the manual and the wheel with the controls? I guess we're also yet to see if the Spec.B wheel will even be identical. Here's to hoping! The Spec.B Wheel is the MOMO wheel with steering wheel radio controls. (the same wheel as 05 automatics with the radio controls instead of the shift controls for the automatic.) The airbag cover will look the same as you have now, because you will be using your airbag, I assume that they are all the same. My vB Garage How to Install Steering Wheel Radio Controls Cubby Gauge Mounting Solutions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoovman Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Anyone know if this idea would work on an 05 OBW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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