rjnakata Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) '01 Legacy GT Wagon I was doing a valve job and took the belt cover off to check the timing and found this. Aisin Belt Kit changed 6/21 (less than one year and 5Kmi ago) at 213K mi What do I have here? TIA Edited May 25, 2022 by rjnakata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infosecdad Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Looks like you have a guide that's too close and the belt is about worn through. Need a new belt and check the guides to make sure they are to spec on the new belt. Good thing you caught it now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjnakata Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) A lil digging and it appears this guide needs to be 1mm above the belt and is only for MT. The wear appears consistent with width of the guide. Mechanic may have placed it too close... Indeed, glad to have caught it during random unrelated work! Edited May 25, 2022 by rjnakata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublechaz Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 BTW, where would I get such a guide? My manual has never had one, so it must have been left out on a job before I got it. I would say Subaru dealer only, but I'm finding more and more parts that they say they don't have and won't get. I keep forgettin' to check the ones I see in the junk yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjnakata Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 BTW, where would I get such a guide? My manual has never had one, so it must have been left out on a job before I got it. I see it at Amazon: "Genuine Subaru 13145AA021 Guide- Timing" or at SubaruPartsdeal.com for $4.77 + a lot of shipping. Not sure if this is applicable for 2nd gen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublechaz Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 RJNakata, thanks. That was easy. I'm pretty confident that it will fit. If it fits ej25 and ej22 in gen III it should fit ej25 and ej22 in gen II. Only thing that changed about timing through that period is the number of sensor teeth on the timing sprocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjnakata Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 RJNakata, thanks. That was easy. I'm pretty confident that it will fit. If it fits ej25 and ej22 in gen III it should fit ej25 and ej22 in gen II. Only thing that changed about timing through that period is the number of sensor teeth on the timing sprocket. Ok, just be sure to space that thing better than my mechanic did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublechaz Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 I have it on the way, but I've driven about 150,000 race like miles without one, so I'll just put it on a shelf until I do the next timing refresh. I sure will do my best to position it and loktite it in place. At least getting one end timing cover off to check is easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 the reason manuals have them is due to the fact rpm changes can happen very rapidly with a gear change and has potential to make the belt jump. enough so that subaru felt the need to put a guide on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublechaz Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 As much as I feel I am very hard on mine, I must be doing something right with the shifts to keep it from jumping. I hope that doesn't change with the whiteline diff bushings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjnakata Posted May 29, 2022 Author Share Posted May 29, 2022 (edited) Ok, sincere question here. The mechanic is saying the guide is in a "fixed" position - not adjustable. Is this true?! Edited May 29, 2022 by rjnakata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublechaz Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 No. That is why there is an adjustment specification for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awfulwaffle Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 The adjustment range on the crank guide is just the clearance between the holes in the guide and the diameter of the bolts that secure it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexi Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 I'm guessing the mechanic isn't used to working on subaru engines. It might look non-adjustable, but there is a small amount of play when you have the bracket installed, and the bolts loose. That's what we mean by adjustable, the bracket is able to very slightly move up and down https://www.gatestechzone.com/en/news/2016-06-subaru-spacer-tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjnakata Posted May 31, 2022 Author Share Posted May 31, 2022 All super helpful thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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