BoxerGT2.5 Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 How are the WR's in the summer? Don't know....I put my Volks on with Proxes 4's. :lol: But the fella who sold them to me uses his all year on all his family cars and loves em. They aren't performance tires, just keep that in mind. OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyetra8 Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 So do you think buying a set of WRs to complement my P4s? Is there too much overlap? (I can see some benefit in not going for a total "snow tire" because here in Boston, it's generally plowed/salted/sanded most in fairly short order....) I've also been looking at the Hankook Ice Bears.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rporter Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 So do you think buying a set of WRs to complement my P4s? Is there too much overlap? (I can see some benefit in not going for a total "snow tire" because here in Boston, it's generally plowed/salted/sanded most in fairly short order....) I've also been looking at the Hankook Ice Bears.... I drove on my Icebears last weekend, and I just got back from running some errands in the snow/ice (and 26-degree temps around here. the Icebears work!! For Boston, a set of good snow tires will work, and the Icebears or Rs will do well. When the P4s wear out, get some real summer-only tires. All-season tires don't cut it for warm-weather performance use. For any performance enthusiast, running two sets of wheels/tires is the only way to go, and a/s tires should not be in either set. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 So do you think buying a set of WRs to complement my P4s? Is there too much overlap? (I can see some benefit in not going for a total "snow tire" because here in Boston, it's generally plowed/salted/sanded most in fairly short order....) I've also been looking at the Hankook Ice Bears.... Well I got the Proxes 4's not thinking I was gonna get snows. When a deal came up I jumped at them and put them on my stock rims. Had I known I was gonna get snows I would have gotten Toyo T1-S's. OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highwaydrifter Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 How are the WR's in the summer? crap tons better then the stockers, much more control in a slide *evil grin* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highwaydrifter Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 glad to hear i am not the only nokian fan boi here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputnik Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 glad to hear i am not the only nokian fan boi here Yeah, there are a few of us here :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 My Toyo's seemed to do very well in the inch or two of very wet slushy stuff on the roads this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 My Toyo's seemed to do very well in the inch or two of very wet slushy stuff on the roads this morning. In the wet they do very good. It only when your riding ontop of snow where they show their weakness. OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I guess every tire has their compromise. For 99% of the year where the roads are either wet or dry - they are outstanding for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I guess every tire has their compromise. For 99% of the year where the roads are either wet or dry - they are outstanding for me. Don't get me wrong they are great tires, I have them on my Volks. Snow just gives them probs. OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyetra8 Posted December 6, 2005 Author Share Posted December 6, 2005 I am looking forward to more snow so I can drop the pressure and give them another try. In Boston, one rarely has to wait for the roads to turn from packed snow to a slushy mess, so I will probably be fine with the P4s if I the pressure drop helps. Ideally, I'd like to try a set of Pirelli Sottozeros, but I am having trouble finding them in size that works. They seem like they'd be a good fit for the Boston climate, and my "spirited" driving. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=Winter+240+Sottozero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHLEG Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I think I'm going to drop the pressure quite a bit and give it another shot before I drop $1000 on a new set of tires and rims, especially since I have a surprise tax bill I have to deal with. *mumble* Lemme guess...Since I see you live in MA, I bet you just got wacked with that retroactive real estate cap gains tax that the legislature screwed you guys with??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawGT Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I am looking forward to more snow so I can drop the pressure and give them another try. In Boston, one rarely has to wait for the roads to turn from packed snow to a slushy mess, so I will probably be fine with the P4s if I the pressure drop helps. Ideally, I'd like to try a set of Pirelli Sottozeros, but I am having trouble finding them in size that works. They seem like they'd be a good fit for the Boston climate, and my "spirited" driving. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Pirelli&tireModel=Winter+240+Sottozero Road & Track had a recent (as in this month or last month's issue) comparing 3 pirelli tires (sottozeros, p zero nero Ms, and eufori summers). The pzeros were awsome compared to the other 2. I think that in the snow tests, the p zero nero's had 33% less performance (as calculated in the article) than the sottozeros. I think RT concluded that the p zeros were the ideal compromise b/w the two...giving up a little in winter (while still very good in winter themselves) and giving up almost nothign to the eufori's in the summer. Get the article. Somebody may have even posted it here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyetra8 Posted December 6, 2005 Author Share Posted December 6, 2005 Lemme guess...Since I see you live in MA, I bet you just got wacked with that retroactive real estate cap gains tax that the legislature screwed you guys with??? You don't even want to know. Thankfully, my tax guy is great, and he's working with THEIRS. (The IRS.) I was this >< close to buying a damn UP/DP/Pully combo from PLTek too. We even had the pricing worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerdave Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 I have Proxes 4s... they are good in the dry and great in the wet. But they're not snow tires. I put on some Hankook Icebear W300s and it's a significant winter tire upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandman Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 glad to hear i am not the only nokian fan boi here This is a 225/55x17 Nokian RSI mounted on the stock 17" Subaru rims. http://www.geocities.com/theseventhfirst/nokianrsi.jpg Who Dares Wins スバル Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyetra8 Posted December 7, 2005 Author Share Posted December 7, 2005 This is a 225/55x17 Nokian RSI mounted on the stock 17" Subaru rims. Ohhhhhh. Do you like the RSIs? Since I can't get the Sottozeros, these are next on my list.... I see you are in Southie- me too. (I live in the big church next to the Broadway T.) Where did you get the RSIs? DirecTire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highwaydrifter Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 order them from Tom at wakeagean (search for nokian group buy)... then comapre his price against who ever else.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emlevins Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Add me to the list of very satisfied WR owners. I replaced summer only Goodyear F1s with them for the winter and there is not much of a decline in overall performance. I was very pleasantly surprised. I can see why folks would run them year round. I'd say they give you about 80% of the performance of the F1s in the dry (slightly less than that in the rain - the F1s are da bomb in the rain) - and then there is the snow - for which they were designed. Great tire. I have about 2K miles on them and they seem even better now than when they first went on. I feel like I can drive the car almost the same way...with almost the same feel...on these tires as I did on the F1s. Next best thing to summer tires (at least teh F1s) in the winter. 05 SWP Legacy GT Limited (aka "Pearl")- 5MT AP - Stage 2 Protuned (238/284) - wife driven 07 BMW 335xi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voyetra8 Posted December 7, 2005 Author Share Posted December 7, 2005 Yo! Highwaydrifter... Thanks a million for the deal. Posted this in another thread, but figured I would share it here as well, so heck this out: Cost from DirectTire in Norwood Mass for a set of 205/50/17 WRs : $923.34 Cost for exact same tires from Tom at Waukegan: ~$560(!) shipped. This just reinforces my distaste for most tire dealers. No wonder so many places don't publish prices online- they want to gouge you as much as possible.... Anyway, thanks again! GREAT deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerdave Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I got my W300s from Waukegan Tire too... $86 each SHIPPED. Good deals, prompt shipment... top notch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emlevins Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 I also got my WRs (in stock size) from Waukegan for $600 shipped. 05 SWP Legacy GT Limited (aka "Pearl")- 5MT AP - Stage 2 Protuned (238/284) - wife driven 07 BMW 335xi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highwaydrifter Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Yo! Highwaydrifter... Thanks a million for the deal. Posted this in another thread, but figured I would share it here as well, so heck this out: Cost from DirectTire in Norwood Mass for a set of 205/50/17 WRs : $923.34 Cost for exact same tires from Tom at Waukegan: ~$560(!) shipped. This just reinforces my distaste for most tire dealers. No wonder so many places don't publish prices online- they want to gouge you as much as possible.... Anyway, thanks again! GREAT deal! see, everyone thinks im bullshiting when i told them about the deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highwaydrifter Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 oh and you guys should post in my intial groupbuy thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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