Tehnation Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) To get the beam out you have to remove the 2 bolts on both ends, the 2 bolts holding up the steering wheel from the bottom, the single bolts on both sides of the center console pillars. Then you have to remove alllll the popits holding the wires to it, there are a LOT, use a popit tool. Plus you have to remove the bolts on the fuse box as well! I wish I would have taken pictures of all these wires, now its a mess. In my frustration my alter ego came out, his name is Frankie F*@k It..... and we all know how things go when Frankie comes out.... everything is just plain ol f**k it... Do I have to remove the blower as well??? this damn thing won't come out. So god damn hot outside, and I can't open the windows in the car...... i'm done for today, Frankie might do something stupid. Edited July 28, 2020 by Tehnation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Let me know if this is what you're talking about. [ATTACH]285969[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]285970[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]285971[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]285972[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]285973[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]285974[/ATTACH] I'm thinking that third photo is the area. Not much there but the wire clip... 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 To get the beam out you have to remove the 2 bolts on both ends, the 2 bolts holding up the steering wheel from the bottom, the single bolts on both sides of the center console pillars. Then you have to remove alllll the popits holding the wires to it, there are a LOT, use a popit tool. I wish I would have taken pictures of all these wires, now its a mess. In my frustration my alter ego came out, his name is Frankie F*@k It..... and we all know how things go when Frankie comes out.... everything is just plain ol f**k it... Do I have to remove the blower as well??? this damn thing won't come out. So god damn hot outside, and I can't open the windows in the car...... i'm done for today, Frankie might do something stupid. The blower motor is three bolts from the bottom and the wire connection. There may be one more thing...but its been years since I removed one. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 do you think the blower needs to come out as well?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 The issue isn't the wires its the big nub on the bottom of the dash that goes into that white oval thing on the car, I believe the nub wears away and causes the rattle. Here is the TSB TSB 12-96-06.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Hey, I just remembered, when my wagon makes the rattle at the bottom of the A pillar, if I push up on the headliner above the cup holders and arm rest, the rattle stops. I only hear it rattle when she's in the car. I guess the radio is to loud when she's not in the passenger seat. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylew Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Well time to finish gutting it all and go full race car. It'll save the headache of actually fixing / putting it back together! Wagon is LIFE! - 265,000 miles and climbing Unofficial Build (Restoration) Thread Steering Rack Rebuild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 AND FRANKIE PREVAILS!!!! Basically he said **** the ac lines and pulled them. I thought the heater pipe lines in the engine bay were a junction, but the hoses are directly connected to the heater core. So i just pulled everything in the engine bay, and the blower motor for good measure. And it's out. I have no idea how anyone is supposed to pull the heater core without messing with the ac lines... pfm i guess. Frankie wasn't interested. you have to pull off all the popits and disconnect all the plugs attached to the main unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tehnation Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 to amazon.... time to buy a vacuum pump and some cheap gauges.... anyone know the procedure for putting ac system under vacuum and recharging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 I see how you can pull it out without removing it, on the driver side there is a cover over the heater core. Remove that and you can slide it out.... god damn hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) actually i spoke to soon... this sucker is in there. I only managed to pull it out like 1/2 an inch.... why is everything so complicated with this lol.. ok now i'm done for the day, i'm about to do something stupid again.... I lied lol, got it out, had to just use pure grit and man strength.... put the main unit back in and reconnected the ac and heater hoses. Will test it tomorrow to see if the new one leaks before redoing all this, ac system still had pressure when I pulled the line even after like 4-5 years of sitting and ac oil crap is oozing everywhere so I am assuming that works. Productive day! Next time on pita subaru I will be reassembling everything. I won't be taking any pictures because you pretty much undo everything you did. If anyone wants any pictures of something let me know before my next adventure! Cause I am itching to drive this thing. Edited July 28, 2020 by Tehnation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 Thats how you pull the heater core folks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 to amazon.... time to buy a vacuum pump and some cheap gauges.... anyone know the procedure for putting ac system under vacuum and recharging? Yeah, pay the man who does this every day. I had both cars AC serviced by the trust mechanic two years ago. They both work great in the current weather. They charged me $60 each. Well worth it. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Thats how you pull the heater core folks! That looks like more work then I'd be up for. You just moved up to Subaru God status. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) already ordered a pump and gauge for 100 bucks, normally I would use my friends pump and gauges and watch him do it but he moved to far away. It's not complicated, I just have to read up to find out if I pull vacuum on the lp or hp, can't remember, maybe both. Either way, I would rather spend 100 bucks and be able to do it whenever I want. I don't have a trusted mechanic, that's an oxymoron to me, trusted and mechanic?! Hvac is easy, and like I said before I would much rather invest in the tools and equipment and learn myself than pay someone else to do it. I'm an engineer... I should be able to figure it out. A cars hvac isn't any different from a fridge or house. Edited July 28, 2020 by Tehnation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 That looks like more work then I'd be up for. You just moved up to Subaru God status. Only if I can put it back together LOL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Only if I can put it back together LOL!!! You are Engineer, of course you can... I have a good friend who was an Engineer at Pratt & Whitney.. you know Jet engines. I was amazed when I went over to his house once and saw the dash of his 2001 Audi S8 all apart laying on the front seat, his laptop hooked up and he was writing code to get it to work. He was putting a European Nav unit in it because it had more features then the USDM car. The car worked well when he got it all back together. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylew Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Give this man a cookie...once the dash is back in. If the heat persists, it'll be a rough day when you have to test the HVAC to make sure it blows hot properly once it is all back together. Me and a handful of my friends are engineers and in into cars...the stupid projects we get ourselves into (out of a very small "want to have", not a "need to have") makes me smile! Wagon is LIFE! - 265,000 miles and climbing Unofficial Build (Restoration) Thread Steering Rack Rebuild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehnation Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 pointless stupid projects! I'm in! Hold my beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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