SSpeed Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) I wasn't sure how to present this thread, but here goes. I helped a friend (and amazing tuner) install his dyno and we threw both of my Subarus on it just for fun and "data". This is in Denver on a Mustang dyno, so take note that our lower atmospheric pressure combined with a heartbreaking dyno really put a hurt on power in cars. 2017 Legacy 3.6R (solid lines) - stock, 6000 miles, 142awhp, 167 ft lbs 2005 Legacy GT (dotted lines) - e85, BNR16g, etc, 151k miles original engine, 313awhp, 367 ft lbs Edited May 25, 2018 by SSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 You may need to learn how to post photos'. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSpeed Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 Weird, it shows up on one computer and not another. Let me figure it out, again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) Sorry, must be work, I can see it on my phone. Nice numbers for the 05 at that elevation. Edited May 24, 2018 by Max Capacity 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhitter Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Why does it say 2017 Legacy 2 wheel drive? My OBXT build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSpeed Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 Probably just the dyno definitions file. If you look down at the parameters they are both in AWD mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Their is a drastic difference in power, an initial quick glance I thought the dashed lines were torque and the sold lines were HP with different scaling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSpeed Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 Their is a drastic difference in power, an initial quick glance I thought the dashed lines were torque and the sold lines were HP with different scaling. I know! Pretty crazy! I should have been more descriptive in my first post, fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryo Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Thanks for the help and this is just funny to see! Dave [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Providing unmatched customer service and a Premium level of Dyno/E-tuning to the Community cryotuneperformance@yahoo.com facebook.com/cryotuneperformance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Gator Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 It would be interesting to compare back to back 0-60 and 0-100 mph accel times for the two cars to see if there really is that much difference that the dyno is showing. Nothing like a race track to find the weak points in man and machine. "Good Judgement comes from Experience. Experience comes from Bad Judgement" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSpeed Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) That would be interesting to see. I've been wanting to take the 3.6 to the dragstrip, shoot in-car video and then put it side by side with the LGT video to see what the difference looks like. My latest LGT timeslip shows 0-84.59 in 8.41 sec. If you believe the various online 0-60 from timeslip calculators, that's 0-60 in about 4.23 sec (hard to believe it takes 4sec to go from 60-84mph, although it does take 4.6 sec to go from 84 to 107). I think the 3.6r is 7.0sec to 60 from magazine testing? I'm in Denver so you can sadly add time to that. As a rough rule you can usually add a full second to your 1/4 time in Denver just due to altitude. Edited June 18, 2018 by SSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 How much gain do you think you'd have if you were to put e85 in the 3.6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSpeed Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 I don't know. I saw a Ford forum where a tuner does a before and after with any NA e85 tune on the Coyote motor. He said the lowest he's seen is 7whp, most is around 15hp, mind you that is from 93 octane. I do think there is probably power to be had tuning for 91 (and tuning the throttle), just don't know if I want to be forced to use premium. The car feels quickish for a family hauler anyway and I'm worried about putting too much grunt into the CVT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xt2005bonbon Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 aah right. I keep forgetting. CVTeeeee. Better not push it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgoodhue Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 My latest LGT timeslip shows 0-84.59 in 8.41 sec. If you believe the various online 0-60 from timeslip calculators, that's 0-60 in about 4.23 sec (hard to believe it takes 4sec to go from 60-84mph, although it does take 4.6 sec to go from 84 to 107). I think the 3.6r is 7.0sec to 60 from magazine testing? I'm in Denver so you can sadly add time to that. As a rough rule you can usually add a full second to your 1/4 time in Denver just due to altitude. For your 0-60 of your LGT, it is probably not that far off. It seem plausible from other cars I have had running similar ET's and data logged to get the 0-60 from. Your 3.6R at altitude 1/4 mile MPH might not be all that far off from LGT 1/8 mph (I assume that you get 8.41 and 84.59mph from a time slip) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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