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Dreaded P0011... Could it just be the camshaft position sensor?


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I respect and appreciate all the knowledge people have passed on and helped me with. My car isn’t perfect, but I’ve always let her warm up for at least 5 min...this was more for the turbo than anything else. It also helped the tranny shift better right out of the gate. But this warm up was bred into me from my merchant days as SOP for all engines (from large slow speed diesels to medium speed diesel gen sets.). Don’t load her up till the oil is at least 135degF.
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Update: I was out of town for about a week on a work trip, but I got a call from the shop yesterday saying that my car was all set. Went in to the shop and they told me they had flushed the engine, changed the oil and filter, and test driven it (for up to 50 miles :eek:). No codes or other problems noted.

 

They didn't charge me anything, but I'm a little suspicious that the problem has been adequately addressed, so I'm going to check the banjo bolt myself this weekend. In any case, could some bad oil have caused all this?

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^You'd have to log to be sure she's good.

 

Thought so. If I bought a tactrix cable, could I log everything I need? I figure I'd need to capture AVCS angles and OCV duty cycle at minimum (based on the service manual).

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75% of engine wear is on start-up, so driving off with cold oil that's not properly lubricating the internals surely is not a good thing. I always have and always will let any vehicle I own, warm up prior to driving off. I consume more gas in the winter but I'd rather buy more gas than an engine. I'm talking 5-10 min depending on ambient temperature. In the summer, more than a couple min is not necessary.

 

If you don't have oil lubing the entire engine 10 seconds after start up, you have a lot more problems on your hands than wear.

 

Driving a car puts load on it, even if you drive easy. This increased load relative to idle "load" warms the car up faster. According to virtually everyone, warm cars don't wear like cold ones do, so why spend so much time with a cold car?

 

That said, I have friends who warm their cars and friends who don't and both of them have spun bearings or cracked ringlands. I see literally no correlation between warming a car before driving it and not. I start mine, let it idle for 20-30 seconds or so, and then I go. I wait to flog it until the coolant is at operating temp for at least 5 minutes or so to give the oil time to warm up.

 

Virtually every manufacturer takes their cars to Finland or Norway or whatever, finds a frozen lake in the middle of -30°C winter, dumps 50W oil in it and flogs it, fully cold after sitting at night. Every manufacturer tries to make their cars fail in the cold and in the heat (GM has a proving grounds in Yuma, AZ) and then disassembles them to check for wear. Everything a manufacturer does is more rigorous than what we do and none of them say idle your car until it's at operating temp before using it.

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My thought's on the bearing spinning and ringland issues, those are caused by the engine MAP, in these engines. Detonation will cause more force on the rod bearings and pistons.

305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD).  CHECK your oil, these cars use it.

 

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Spending some time today trying to get to the banjo bolt. Got the intercooler off and was greated with what appears to be oil in the inlet pipe... how screwed am I?

 

https://imgur.com/vRsx1hg

 

Also, does anyone know what these two hoses are supposed to connect to? They're under the IC and appear to connect to the top of the transmission on one end, but lead to nowhere on the other. This is the first time I've had the IC off since I bought the car.

 

https://imgur.com/QaSwty8

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Spending some time today trying to get to the banjo bolt. Got the intercooler off and was greated with what appears to be oil in the inlet pipe... how screwed am I?

 

https://imgur.com/vRsx1hg

 

Also, does anyone know what these two hoses are supposed to connect to? They're under the IC and appear to connect to the top of the transmission on one end, but lead to nowhere on the other. This is the first time I've had the IC off since I bought the car.

 

https://imgur.com/QaSwty8

 

Might also want to check your PCV & hose assembly...might be time to replace. $60 and should be done every 100k IIRC

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Alright, so after a few hours of fighting I finally got the downpipe off and was able to check the back half of the turbo. There is no play that I can feel; the turbine is rock solid.

 

Ran out of light this evening before I could get the whole turbo off, but I'll try to get to that and the banjo bolt under there ASAP.

 

I'm feeling more confident that I caught this problem before blowing my turbo, at the very least. What should I be inspecting to determine the root cause of the oil in the IC?

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Time to revive this dead thread...

 

Car has been sitting for a few months due to weather and a busy schedule, but temps are rising and it's time to get the car back on the road. I'm planning to replace the PCV components, fix the steering pump (o-ring), remove banjo bolts, and finally address P0011. I'm thinking I'll also remove the intake manifold to give everything up there a good inspection and clean while I'm at it. That's a fair bit of work, so is there anything in particular I should look at replacing while it's all apart?

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