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Please, please tell me as a new owner what you guys mean by "JDM" , I can understand that it has something to do with Japanese but then what...

I'll tell you whats on my wish list.. I would like the ICE not to have a casette player included. Even if I wanted I could not be able to bring about a casette from any shop here in Sweden nowadays, mayby 20 years ago but nowadays...

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Pie in the sky?

 

Drop an LS1 into mine, please! NA torque can't be beat! Also, beef up the drivetrain so I can do 6K clutch drops all day without fear of breaking anything.

 

Aside from that, I want the sweet shifter from the RX-8 and more ground clearance with the same CoG. And a HUD like the Vette, with a tach and shift lights. And integrated nav. And an iPod interface. Oh, a convertible hardtop would be nice, too. :)

 

I guess that would be a "dream" Legacy for me. :)

 

Realistically? I want a quick-revving H6 that matches our turbo H4. And the iPod interface, of course. :)

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I updated my previous post with italics for the non-realistic items...

 

However, for truly pie in the upper ionosphere...

 

My dream legacy, wouldn't actually be a legacy... but rather an offshoot. Before getting smitten by the LGT, I really was looking into the RX8. It looks like a nice car, and for as much as I love the idea of a rotary engine, it isn't the most practical. I think a Rotary is great in an ultra-light sportscar, or a dedicated race car.

(I'd love to see one in an open-wheel Ariel Atom type of car... dressed like an old school Maserati 250f 50's Race car)

 

I think someone could do something both sportier AND more practical. I think Subaru should be that someone. With AWD and a boxer motor. Developed from the Legacy platform.

 

Take the front hardpoints of the Legacy to the firewall and keep them. keep the front seat floorpans. From there back it would be different.

 

Two longer main doors. two backward opening half doors. One large, low-sill fastback-style hatch.

 

Windsheild gets more rake, and the roof gets glassed in, like a canopy. Double saftety glass moonroofs, front sliding down and under the rear. Side window-in-a-window treatment, and glass over the doorframes and windsheild pillars, like the SVX and then some. The whole car above the beltline should look like a glass canopy with a few inconspicuous cut lines.

Do some slick LED tail, turn, signal mirror, indicator stuff. HID and HIR headlighting.

 

Cokebottle fenders and a simple but agressive lines, kind of like a Ferrari F430. I am not saying it needs to look exactly like the ferrari (although there are much worse designs to imitate) but rather graceful curves and a pronounced shoulder, punctuated by few but agressive lines.

 

IF subaru wants to go with the fuselage and wing theme on the front, then have them low on the front fascia, and have them be the only openings. The new Bugatti has three grilles on the front, including a horseshoe shape in the middle, but no other openings but those three, and they are low to the ground. Doesn't look too bad. Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione also.

 

Powered by your choice of 2.5 Turbo, 3.0R, or 3.0 Twin Turbo. 6MT, 5EAT-Sport Shift, or if Subie can do it... a DSG-style computer controlled manual trans, and VTD AWD. 250hp minimum. The RX8 wishes it had that much power, torque, and traction.

 

There is a problem, though. After owning two-door cars, and a 4-door supercab ranger (with the rear half doors) I have realized that there is one aspect of those cars that is hard to get around. Parking lot entrance and egress.

 

Long doors of a coupe, with any thickness at all, are sometimes heavy and cumbersome, and if the space is narrow, the door won't open wide enough to get into and out of.

 

Rear half doors can exacerbate that problem. Usually they open to the full perpendicular position, but then you're trapped between the doors, the interior, and the car next to you. (or the garage wall, etc..) and you have to navigate to load/unload, and shut the doors in the right order to get out, or in.

 

However, when space is available, the doors' access spaces are extremely useful. So here are my ideas on how to solve these problems... All from existing vehicles.

 

1 Front doors: Jackknife. (Lamborghini-style) it moves the doors vertically to get them out of the way. Overhead clearance is an issue, but they would always open enough to get out. They would also be out of the way so that with someone getting out of the rear seat, with the rear door open, the front seat occupant could move toward the front of the car, rather than being trapped right in the way by the front door. Hopefully it hasn't been done-to-death by the tuner crowd.

Option 2: swan-wing doors (forward canted gullwing, like mcLaren F1.) trades overhead clearance issue for a bit of lateral obstruction... Otherwise very similar.

 

Rear doors:

Fully opening compound hinge, that rotates the door almost 180 degrees from it's closed position, rather than just 90 degrees. I believe the new Nissan pickup line has this option. The door opens up to the point where it is completely folded back along the rear bodywork, rather than 90 degrees to the body centerline.

Option 2: a track-sliding rear door. the shape of the rear half door (full height but short front to back length) but slides out and back like a van door, along the rear bodywork, again not 90 degrees perpendicular.

 

But, the whole point being that this would be a coupe-profiled vehicle, with 5 access doors, and either workable room for 4 adults, through wide side openings, or a flat load floor behind the front seats, accessible from the hatch, as well as the sides.

 

It should look like a 2008 version of a car designed for 2010, rather than a car from 1955 designed for 2010. Not gimmicky, but aerodynamic, and fighter-jet agressive.

 

It should be the SVX turned up to 11, modern, future-classic (rather than the SVX that is looking dated), agressive, practical, and sporty, all at the same time.

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A 5.0L double-H 8 cylinder DOHC engine mated to a 6 speed transmission. Driver controllable AWD system to include 50f/50r, 30f/70r, 0f/100r selections. Tighter suspension but not too tight. Brakes that don't suck. Seats that don't suck. 6 disc in dash changer that plays MP3/WMA CD and DVD audio discs and better factory speakers. Rear window wiper.

 

I think that about covers it for me....for now anyways.

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Stage 5 Axis motor

Some kind of matching turbo running some insane 25psi or something

FMIC thermal coated black to hide it

Big Brake kit

Stock lookin 18's

Upgraded suspension that keeps my 8.7" of clearance

Sti 6MT with DCCD

 

 

Leave exterior mostly stock

interior not mcuh different than I have it..... Maybe some nice black cloth Recaro's

 

 

25 psi? pssh, 'insane' is running 125 psi with over 3500 cfm with a max spool from the motor at 2500 rpms and a redline of 25,000 rpms. You'll need a FMIC that is the size of your hood and about 1' thick. Soon, you'll make NOS obsolete with this setup.

 

You dont want an STi 6MT, you want an F1 sequential shift tranny that has a final drive of 2.25:1... make that car hit over 250 mph on 6th gear (and have a 7th gear for cruising at 250 mph).

Keefe
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A 5.0L double-H 8 cylinder DOHC engine mated to a 6 speed transmission. Driver controllable AWD system to include 50f/50r, 30f/70r, 0f/100r selections. Tighter suspension but not too tight. Brakes that don't suck. Seats that don't suck. 6 disc in dash changer that plays MP3/WMA CD and DVD audio discs and better factory speakers. Rear window wiper.

 

I think that about covers it for me....for now anyways.

 

 

Your car would take up 2 lanes with a double 8.. just run a flat 12 or flat 16 like the Ferrari TR512.

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Your car would take up 2 lanes with a double 8.. just run a flat 12 or flat 16 like the Ferrari TR512.

 

Nah, not two lanes, it'd just have a longer front bumper than it already does. :lol:

 

A Subie 8 or 12 cylinder boxer would be an interesting option for a rear-mid engined AWD supercar, though...

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Your car would take up 2 lanes with a double 8.. just run a flat 12 or flat 16 like the Ferrari TR512.

 

Oops! I meant it to be double H4...basically putting another H4 in front of the already installed engine. They could probably design it to fit without major modification...

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* indicates what I already have

 

OBP LGT*

 

300whp 320ish wtq Reving to 8k

 

vf 39

sti Mani.

Turbo XS TMIC

Turbo XS 4inch DP with 3inch dmh ecutout

Turbo XS BOV

Turbo XS UP

Turbo XS Utec

Turbo XS D tec w/ EBC, and EGT

5MT with better clutch and Flywheel

Borla catback*

header if worth it

Leight weight pullys if worth it

 

20% lee Tint

Rear lip*

CF B pillar trims

Regular Japan and other market front bumper not spec B

Including JDM bumper beam

HID retro with clear corners and paint gray parts of housing OBP

Rear L7 and steering wheel L7

Smoked tails with revers cutout or JDM tails

SSR comps 17x7.5 anthracite with RE 70's*

SSR comps " " " 205/50/17 Hakkapleidas

" " " " " some good all seasons

 

Tein flex coilovers with in car dampening

Vacanza F&R sways

Cusco F&R struts

Gold STI brembos

Leightweight rotors

Braille leightweight battery

 

Euro Armrest*

Really short shifter that raises very short

WRX CF shift Knob

WRX pedals

autospeed DP

CF sti badge by shifter

Defi BF boost gauge on A pillar*

D Tec

Leightweight leather racing seats

Reupolstered roof to darker gray w/ no side handles and no passeger sunvisor

turbo timer

CB radio

DVD/computer screen as the cubby door

MAC mini in glove box

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Assuming we're talking about realistic mods to an existing LGT:

 

 

Lightweight 18" wheels with Bridgestone S-03 PP tires

STi Legacy coilovers

STi Brembo brakes

AP stage 2

STi tranny mount & Kartboy bushings (although I'd have to try them to know for sure)

Performance gauge pack

possibly sway bar upgrades which I'm not knowledgeable enough about to know which ones

 

Hmmm, that's a good start.

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I'd want a Legacy STI for about 30k which would pretty much cover everything I want improved on.

 

 

You mean the imaginary S402?

 

Here's the real S401:

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0406scc_tengreat09/

 

Subaru Japan website

http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/s401/

 

http://www.subaru.com.ua/pic/news/news_03_11.jpg

http://www.k2k2.jp/img/earo/00.JPG

http://www2.ezbbs.net/33/k2gear/img/1108224702_3.jpg

 

 

STi (non S402) Legacy (just fitted with STi parts):

http://response.jp/issue/2004/0114/article56972_1.images/60776.jpg

http://response.jp/issue/2004/0114/article56972_1.images/60777.jpg

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Nah, not two lanes, it'd just have a longer front bumper than it already does. :lol:

 

A Subie 8 or 12 cylinder boxer would be an interesting option for a rear-mid engined AWD supercar, though...

 

 

Or taller for that matter (two H8s stacked on top.. if it was lengthwise, it would be a Flat 16).

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bah, just run this in the car:

 

[1974 Turbo RSR:]

http://www.f1grandprixtours.com/images/sponsorpic6-l.jpg

 

This turbo is way bigger than a T88.

 

It's way cool considering this motor ran twin spark plug cylinder set up to make some serious power. Talk about lower compression ratio (say 5.5 or 6:1 running 40+ psi).

 

Here are the rest:

http://www.f1grandprixtours.com/images/turbo-029.jpg

http://www.f1grandprixtours.com/images/turbo-032.jpg

http://www.f1grandprixtours.com/images/Rsr-m-025.JPG

http://www.f1grandprixtours.com/images/Engine-cooler.jpg

http://www.f1grandprixtours.com/images/sponsorpic4-l.jpg

http://www.f1grandprixtours.com/images/sponsorpic2-l.jpg

http://www.f1grandprixtours.com/images/sponsorpic1-l.jpg

http://www.f1grandprixtours.com/images/Porschevanveelen.JPG

 

I am sure some of you guys wouldnt mind having something like this in your engine bay..

 

it would be nice to have a 6 litre boxer4 motor (1.5 litre per cylinder!!! talk about torque!!).

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I'd want a Legacy STI for about 30k which would pretty much cover everything I want improved on.

 

+1

 

plus nav/DVD playstation, 6MT, 18" BBS, 12 ounce can cooler in arm rest, H6 TT engine, rear wiper, harmon kardon 14 speaker sound system including 2 10" JBL's,

it would have to push 500whp, so all the goodies to make it do that on top of the STi stuff. im not hard to please. thats it

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