eVoMotion Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 I finally found time install the Ksport coilovers with the help of http://www.timconnellracing.com/ Finally got the OBXT lowered to a safe height. Ksport coilovers = 3" drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eVoMotion Posted October 18, 2005 Author Share Posted October 18, 2005 I really like the look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eVoMotion Posted October 18, 2005 Author Share Posted October 18, 2005 I LOVE the way this goes into a corner and the T1-Rs just claw into it! Now to install the Subaru hitch, bug guard, rain guards and kart boy short shifter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestir Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Wow. Looks great! No doubt the handling's improved. How's the ride? I assume both spring rates and damping rates are much firmer. No more hobby-horsing and bobbing around? Is it still comfortable? I recall someone with GPMoto coilovers said it was a bit too firm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eVoMotion Posted October 18, 2005 Author Share Posted October 18, 2005 Thanks! We love it. The ride is night and day better. I have it current set to full soft all around. It is firm. I am going to increase the firmness and play with tire PSI this week to see how much it changes the ride. I have not ridden in other LGTs or OBXTs with modded suspension to see if anything is better. There are pros and cons to coilovers. Overall I am very happy. Drewster has the GPMoto setup and I believe he likes it. We need to get together to do a back-to-back OBXT coilover test. If you are local, you are welcome to drive it anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestir Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 Unfortunately, I'm not local. I'll have to take your word. I find the stock OB-XT quite underdamped. Maybe other things too, I'm no expert. But relative to my benchmark (6th generation Honda Accord), it's way too soft--leaving you feel like the shocks are worn out when going over railroad tracks or car-length crests in the road. The suspension system (including tires) is generally nice and quiet though. And suppresses small bumps (bots dots lane markings, expansion joints, etc.) really well. I plan to try a thicker rear sway bar next. That should tame some of the corner lean, but I don't expect it will affect the underdamped feeling. I really wish Bilstein would come out with dampers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03Indigo Posted October 18, 2005 Share Posted October 18, 2005 lookin good!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmad Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 EvoMotion, are those the same coilovers for the LGT? did you encounter any surprises in the installation? thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eVoMotion Posted October 21, 2005 Author Share Posted October 21, 2005 Yeap - these are LGT Ksports. Only surprise, was no instructions. I have never installed coilovers and I think that there were any surprises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveracer Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 How much to the coilovers cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eVoMotion Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 $900 http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14676 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gire Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 eVomotion- You and Drewster have made me re-think my Legacy purchase. Your OB looks awesome. Racing Sparco wheels by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eVoMotion Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 We were really concerned about not getting the LGT and looked all over the country for the right spec, but no LGT in black/black MT anywhere, so gave in. Very happy now. I see LGTs all over and very few OBXTs. Yeap - Racing Sparco D2 18x8 +46. I go back on forth on the look, but it does say "battle wagon." Drewster and I need to do a photo shoot - lowered OBXTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gire Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 ...I go back on forth on the look, but it does say "battle wagon." You bet it does. I love those Sparco's. I was looking at them for my Legacy. :Sigh: one day;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team23jordan Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 eVoMotion, is yours manual? Perrin BIG maf intake Perrin Turbo Inlet HKS SSQV BOV Megan Racing header with UP (ceramic coated) HKS DP (WRX) DMH E-cutout Custom 3" catback UTEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eVoMotion Posted October 29, 2005 Author Share Posted October 29, 2005 Ours is a manual. My wife insisted (her car in theory). I love her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daswrx Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 nice looking obxt.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdepew Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 Looks great! Love how it fills the wheel well completely. Now you got me wondering what 19s would look like on your setup. this just adds more food for thought to what the GT should have been - fender flares of the OB, short bumpers of JDM stock, wheel well filling combo while dropping ride height on 18/19.... mmm. keep up the good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eVoMotion Posted November 29, 2005 Author Share Posted November 29, 2005 Thanks! 19's with 35 series would be a very nice looking ride, but I would be afraid of any suspension upgrades. Mine is a bit firm even with the 45 series tires. Check out this car to get an idea of the look of 19's: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21949 He has 18's with 35's (it looks like), which throws off the speedometer, though looks way cool. I went with 45s to keep the speedo correct and to fill the wheel well. Changing out front springs to a softer set soon and will raise the front and rear a tad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDork Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 is there any downside to dropping an obxt vs a legacy? is there much of a weight difference? can you fit wider tires in the OB? i do like the look of the flares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eVoMotion Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 there is almost no weight difference. No downside (pun) to dropping an OBXT vs LGT. The flares are solid, so not much difference in tire clearance; as far as I know. We have 255/45/18 +46 offset = 9.8inch tire width. It is more than adequate. I think the OBXT looks better lowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wsmc81 Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 eVoMotion, By the time my current lease is up I doubt I will be able to find a manual LGT wagon, so a lowered OBXT wagon will likely be the choice. I believe you estimated a 3 inch drop. I understand that in changing to coilovers you can realize a reduction in ride height through a combination of shorter shock bodies and also reduced shock stroke. Do you know how much suspension travel was sacrificed in order to get down to your current ride height, as opposed to shorter shock bodies. Are you hitting your bumpstops a lot? I come from the Miata world where lowering an inch with stock struts puts you almost on your bumpstops. In order to effectively lower a MIata you need shorter shock bodies to keep decent ride and handling. I would hate to sacrifice to much in order to reduce the ride height to the level you are at. On a OBXT I would assume that a 1.5-2.0 inch reduction in suspension travel, coupled with 50% firmer springs would not be excessive. Thanks Kirk eVomotion : Just noticed you have a 94R ... 96 and thinking of a BRP supercharger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eVoMotion Posted January 24, 2006 Author Share Posted January 24, 2006 Hi Kirk, Thanks for the questions. I was hitting the rear bumpstop at the first 3" drop. I have swapped out the rear OBXT bump with a LGT bump; it is smaller and shorter. I raised the car up 3/4" as well. I was getting a bit of inner wheel well rub on full compression bumps. I swapped out to a 6kg front spring replacing the 7kg. It rides much better. It is hard to know exactly the difference in raising it made as I swapped front springs and all tires and wheels and new alignment at the same time. I plan on swapping the snow tires out again soon then will be able to evaluate the ride and height better again. There seems to be enough ride now. I confirmed with the coilover mfr that my ride height would not negatively. To answer your question - all seems good after I swapped the rear bumps. Check out Drewster, 03Indigo and DASWRX for for dropped OBXT threads. (update your location so someone local can reply). OBXT = fast. MX-5 = slow, except in a corner. I want a FM turbo. Cheers! Check out: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26202 eVoMotion, By the time my current lease is up I doubt I will be able to find a manual LGT wagon, so a lowered OBXT wagon will likely be the choice. I believe you estimated a 3 inch drop. I understand that in changing to coilovers you can realize a reduction in ride height through a combination of shorter shock bodies and also reduced shock stroke. Do you know how much suspension travel was sacrificed in order to get down to your current ride height, as opposed to shorter shock bodies. Are you hitting your bumpstops a lot? I come from the Miata world where lowering an inch with stock struts puts you almost on your bumpstops. In order to effectively lower a MIata you need shorter shock bodies to keep decent ride and handling. I would hate to sacrifice to much in order to reduce the ride height to the level you are at. On a OBXT I would assume that a 1.5-2.0 inch reduction in suspension travel, coupled with 50% firmer springs would not be excessive. Thanks Kirk eVomotion : Just noticed you have a 94R ... 96 and thinking of a BRP supercharger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach V Dan Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 19's with 35 series would be a very nice looking ride, but I would be afraid of any suspension upgrades. Mine is a bit firm even with the 45 series tires. If you're on 45 series now, you'd only need to go to a 40 profile for a 19" wheel. I was actually shocked to see those are 18's -- they don't look that big, and the tire looks kind of huge to my eye. (I'm used to looking at my own 40-series tires...) I'm thinking I want to do an Outback with 20's. --Dan Mach V FastWRX.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
106racecar Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Thanks! We love it. The ride is night and day better. I have it current set to full soft all around. It is firm. I am going to increase the firmness and play with tire PSI this week to see how much it changes the ride. I have not ridden in other LGTs or OBXTs with modded suspension to see if anything is better. There are pros and cons to coilovers. Overall I am very happy. Drewster has the GPMoto setup and I believe he likes it. We need to get together to do a back-to-back OBXT coilover test. If you are local, you are welcome to drive it anytime. Hi Evomotion, I am particularly interested in how the lowered XT goes on gravel roads now? I guess it should be similar to a Legacy GT? I am very keen an Outback but we only get the 3.0R auto and the 2.5 manual here in NZ. Of these my choice would be the 3.0R as the 2.5 is a little rough in comparison. I have heard and read on forums that the auto transmission is not too good in the 3.0R and there have been a lot of complaints about its performance. As a consequence I would have gone with the XT manual if we had it in our market but am now looking at a Legacy 3.0R with the STI 6 spd manual or a 2.5 Outback, whilst still not completely writing off the 3.0R. I mainly drive in the city here, but would anticipate that I will take on a gravel road 3 - 4 times per year and the odd dash to the ski field. Do you find that the lowered suspension compromises the gravel road ability of the Outback much ? Are there any other issues with the lower suspension? My brother who is into 4WDing, reckons that you could get a Legacy and an Outback pretty much into the same places - you would just have to drive slower ... Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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