supercow2610 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Hi, I am planning on upgrading the halogen projector to HID one. I am thinking of the RX350 from theretrofitsource.com. The main problem for projector retrofit is the mounting bracket. The bracket can make/break the entire process. I saw a guy with the 6th gen doing RX350 non AFS. However ours might be different. So does the RX350 non-AFS or AFS fit ours? Next is what other projectors you guys recommend. I had experience with FX-R but it's OK. Might be more work due to how the projector is designed. I will avoid the retroquik since I don't like the H1 output. I have 2010 Legacy headlight. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkrie hunter Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 How about the Retroquik D2S stuff? I think the output is a little more even. I cannot say for sure what other projects would fit, with minimal issues. However, personally, I used a D1S Valeo Projector off a Cadillac SRS due to its small size. The brackets were made with an aluminum Angle Iron that was folded in half. This allowed me to drill/dremel identical brackets. The picture got corrupted for some reason, but you can see the top brackets. Hope this kinda helps LOL. http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a155/ValkrieHunter/Retrofit/21f789c4-a50a-4dc4-9579-ac61b8e3917d.jpg Side Note: D1S is not a very good projector. RX350, or LS430 HID is probably still high on the list. I think EvoX + STI-R Lens is a good option too. I've been looking at LED retro after this one dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedaykin Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Black series should be bolt in (they're OE in JP/EU/Aus). D2S 4.0 probably requires a bracket but should fit easily otherwise. Let us know how you go. This is the OE HID setup: http://i58.tinypic.com/2exx2kx.jpg http://i61.tinypic.com/2qi908i.jpg Actually a mini D2S should be able to slot in there. I only have the Mini D2S 3.0, but will try to see if anything else fits (e.g. G37 sedan). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow2610 Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 Just had confirmation from trs. The non afs pattern doesnt fit our 5th gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedaykin Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Isn't the RX330 non-AFS same as Maxima? Or are JDM and USDM headlights different (different mounting points?)? You can see the four mounting screw on my pictures above. I put US Maxima bowls in my projectors, if that helps. *edit* just realised you were talking about RX350, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow2610 Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Isn't the RX330 non-AFS same as Maxima? Or are JDM and USDM headlights different (different mounting points?)? You can see the four mounting screw on my pictures above. I put US Maxima bowls in my projectors, if that helps. *edit* just realised you were talking about RX350, my bad. Thanks for the input. The rx350 is a more improved version of the 330. Both afs and non afs bolt pattern dont fit. Do you have the bolt pattern measurement for either the stock projector or the maxima's since its a direct fit? And nice projector btw. Hows the output and pattern on the maxima proj? Youre thinking of upgrading to clear lens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow2610 Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Just checked this member's project: http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2010-legacy-hid-projector-retrofit-232149.html Seems like he's using the eBay EvoX-R projector and it is a direct swap with tyc aftermarket bolt pattern. https://www.theretrofitsource.com/components/projectors/bi-xenon-morimoto-evox-r.html The photo from TRS is very similar to the one the member had. I did not see the mounting holes for the halogen projectors. Does anyone has a picture of the housing without projector on it? TRS website has picture of the Retroquik with bracket. The bracket bolt holes look similar to the OE HID picture. https://www.theretrofitsource.com/complete-retrofit-kits/application-specific/morimoto-retroquik-subaru-legacy.html Maybe I can ask TRS if they could make a bracket to fit the projector of choice. I dont have any metal-work machinary or a work shop so I can only go pre-made route. Unless you guys know a home improvement shop that can fabricate one. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedaykin Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Thanks for the input. The rx350 is a more improved version of the 330. Both afs and non afs bolt pattern dont fit. Do you have the bolt pattern measurement for either the stock projector or the maxima's since its a direct fit? And nice projector btw. Hows the output and pattern on the maxima proj? Youre thinking of upgrading to clear lens? Mine's an Australian/JDM/Euro OEM HID. I put the 'black series' clear lenses from TRS so the cutoff is sharp, but I preferred the OE blurry cutoff when driving in the dark (sadly I threw the lenses away I think). I'm going to open my headlights up again to clean it up (maybe add a foreground limiter), so will take measurements and pictures then. I'm planning on obtaining a set of halogen headlights to retrofit (for fun), so I can take it apart and put up pictures. It would be nice if someone from US did as well, so we can compare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow2610 Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 Mine's an Australian/JDM/Euro OEM HID. I put the 'black series' clear lenses from TRS so the cutoff is sharp, but I preferred the OE blurry cutoff when driving in the dark (sadly I threw the lenses away I think). I'm going to open my headlights up again to clean it up (maybe add a foreground limiter), so will take measurements and pictures then. I'm planning on obtaining a set of halogen headlights to retrofit (for fun), so I can take it apart and put up pictures. It would be nice if someone from US did as well, so we can compare That would be awesome. I will definitely put up measurements and pic when I open up my headlight. This might take a while since I'm still in researching phase. I also emailed Lightwerkz which is another retrofit distributor/retrofitter. They might have answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow2610 Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 Just did some digging. Another member with 09 legacy fitted RX330 non-AFS in his housing which is the same as our 5th gen. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/trs-retro-quik-retrofit-223458.html And from this post, the mounting points on the RX350 non-afs are similar to the one posted http://www.scionlife.com/forums/scion-tc-2g-aero-exterior-1825/lexus-rx350-bi-xenon-projector-direct-drop-replacement-225776/ and from this member post with HD pictures, http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2015-subaru-legacy-2-5i-hid-retrofit-245825.html Guess I'll have to buy the RX350 non-AFS and play with the mounting when I have time. Had an H1 6.0 and was not a fan. FX-R spoiled me well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 FX-R spoiled me well. I have a set of FX-R sitting in the garage waiting to go into the 5th Gen. So you're saying they are pretty good? GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow2610 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 I have a set of FX-R sitting in the garage waiting to go into the 5th Gen. So you're saying they are pretty good? Compared to mh1 is a definite yes. Check this link for output pattern. https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/forum/showoff/output-shots-beam-pattern-pictures/1381230-the-hyyuge-projector-full-beam-gallery Comapred to h1, the fxr throw useable light much further and wider. The cutoff is sharp and color flicker is great This is the shot from my previous retro with fxr 3.0 from trs: http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll20/Long_Tran_Phan/0728152229_zpst9sjauev.jpg Not the best since its my second attempt. Also, my headlight housing lens was not clear, slightly hazy. Our halogen projector actually performs on par with the fxr in term of width but not light output with hid bulb. I know its a no no n thats why im trying to retro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTone Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 If any of the Retrofit guys are in the DC metro area it would be interesting to get together and do a comparison for people since I have the drop ins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow2610 Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 Plannng on photos and a small write up when time n money allows. Im on the pnw side so wont be able to meet up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow2610 Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 I have a set of FX-R sitting in the garage waiting to go into the 5th Gen. So you're saying they are pretty good? GTEASER, this member used FX35 which is similar to FX-R with 2008 housing which is similar to ours. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/fx35-retro-ddm-3000k-fogs-warning-lots-pics-106039.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow2610 Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 Another good find: This thread gives specs of the stock projector: https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/forum/showoff/projector-retrofits/57487-2013-subaru-legacy-retro-oem-mdx/page2 Spacing as in pictures: Between top two mounting holes: 3.5cm Between bottom two mounting holes: 4.0cm Top to bottom: 11.0cm Does any one know the specs for the RX350 mounting points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow2610 Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/hid-retrofit-rx330-50-asf-projector-130896.html http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/rx330-oem-conversion-full-oem-hids-write-up-56028.html?t=56028 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow2610 Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 Mounting point specs from 2012+ Camry: the horizontal distance between the top holes - 47 mm the horizontal distance between the bottom holes - 76 mm the vertical distance between the top and bottom holes - 80 mm Unsure from the post from which the measurements come: AFS holes or stock housing holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedaykin Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 2012+ Camry, HID? Are they RX350 bi-xenon? On a side note, G37 sedan projectors are quite compact (for OEM AFS), so some brackets and they should fit with relative ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow2610 Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 2012+ Camry, HID? Are they RX350 bi-xenon? On a side note, G37 sedan projectors are quite compact (for OEM AFS), so some brackets and they should fit with relative ease. Theyre halogen projectors but the rx 350 non afs are drop in with some cutting for them as well as 6th gen legacy. Anither member used legacy shield and mounting bracket for the rx330. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow2610 Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 After researching, i gave up and will go with a pair of used altima/maxima hid projector sold on trs. Theyre not the best but are easy to swap in. Paired with cbi bulbs, they are pretty decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedaykin Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 I would add a bigger foreground limiter, I find it has too much foreground. I have some RX350 coming from Japan, so will throw up some comparison pictures soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow2610 Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 I originally complated installing the RX350 since it is one of the best projectors. However, that raised the complexity of the retrofit and I don't really want to mess with it. So I went with a used Maxima xenon low-beam projector (aka black projectors). I swapped the bowl with the original H11 bowl, and reused the Subaru lens housing with clear lens from TRS and mounting/shield bracket. There are 3 dimples on the Maxima projector that needed to be sanded down to fit the H11 bracket. Color, cut-off and beam out-put is amazing compared to my previous retro (FX-R) and obviously H11 HID. This is paired with Philips CBI 5500K Bulb warming uo http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll20/Long_Tran_Phan/IMG_20170822_220110_zpsd0yesmpv.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll20/Long_Tran_Phan/IMG_20170822_220125_zpsujhtkfoi.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll20/Long_Tran_Phan/IMG_20170822_220137_zpsmond94cr.jpg Here is the reference of the FX-R http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll20/Long_Tran_Phan/0728152226_zpslcpjdqzc.jpg The pictures dont really do the Maxima projector justice but it's much wider with better ligh distribution from middle to the sides. http://proantagonist.github.io/Projects/HIDP%20Projector%20Output%20Comparison/#/ You can use this link posted on HID planet to compare the beam output between Maxima/RX330 vs. FX-R The retro took me 4 hours because I was being cautious and working on 1 headlight @ a time. Much shorter time than my previous retro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble Rumble Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Try re-hosting your pictures on Imgur.com instead. Photobucket is all but useless these days. 2012 Legacy 3.6R Build Thread 5th Gen Legacy BM/BR Body Kit Compendium Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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