Official Firearm Thread V3

[m sprank]

Glad you are having fun. If the 308 is giving too much recoil, you can try an adjustable gas block, of shoot me a PM. I have tried soooo many buffer spring/buffer combos I have one I use for rifle buffer tube and one for carbine buffer tube when shooting 308. Very happy. Associates have commented on the fact that my 308's are tack drivers. The absence of recoil surprises them.

[THE RZA]

go on, you have my attention Now I know why most .308's are piston driven

[m sprank]

Rifle length =

Tactical springs * green spring http://www.sprinco.com/tactical.html

Heavy Buffer * XH rifle buffer http://www.heavybuffers.com/ar10rifle.html

 

Carbine length =

Tactical springs * orange spring http://www.sprinco.com/tactical.html

Heavy Buffer * CAR10 buffer http://www.heavybuffers.com/ar10carbine.html

 

Excellent starting point. Massive reduction in felt recoil. Many AR's are over gassed.

[THE RZA]

That will be on my list of parts to get soon enough. Talked with someone today on how to properly mount my scope, as I've never worked with one before and i think I did that properly, screws seem to be torqued down good enough now that they shouldn't come loose. Giving that a try before I give up on my mount + better ammo. Getting a good zero and getting used to this rifle are still higher priority for me right now than anything else.

[TSiWRX]

The mount and/or optics manufacturer should have torque values.

 

Make sure that the mount interfaces well with your rail - that this is solid and is not loosening due to recoil.

 

At the 100, you most likely won't see an issue with this, but properly leveling the scope is critical as you start to stretch out.

 

With something that reaches out further, I'd actually lap the scope rings, too, to insure best mounting and less likelihood of damage to the scope.

 

Play with the scope's position between the rings and/or the position of the mount on the receiver until you get consistency in cheeking the gun and a clear view through the scope without shadow. Up-drills (dry) as well as repeatedly getting into and out of various shooting positions. Once you are there, you can then finally think about tightening down rings to the scope itself. What "looks right" on the gun may not actually be correct based on how you personally interact with the gun.

 

Once you've torqued down all screws, use a paint-pen to mark each one (including the mount's screws to clamp onto the receiver).

 

And I seem to remember that you said you shot off a bench, seated. If this is the case - and I do see a bit of vertical stringing in the shots you registered on your zero target - remember to make absolutely sure you are sitting in a consistent manner during your zero. You may need to "re-seat" after each shot.

[THE RZA]

posture wasn't best either i'm not gonna lie. found my self a few times on my toes rather than my feet firmly planted. I got the first magazine jitters out, next time I go to the range with this gun I'll go back to work.

 

On another note, found out about this rifle through a new acquaintance who runs an gun review blog from Rock River Arms:

 

 

I like how this combines the best of both worlds. I have fun with my AK but in it's true russian nature, it's a cheap rifle and meant to be a punisher rather than an accurate rifle. Chambered in 7.62x39 and rifled like an AR, this may become a purchase in the future

[ArmyVetMP]

Wish I could buy a nice new AR rifle.. Sucks living in Commienecticut...

 

I would have to buy something Pre-Ban, which currently are running around $2k or more...

[rodan]

I like how this combines the best of both worlds.

 

I would argue it combines the worst of both... less accurate, usually dirtier ammo with the gas impingement system of the AR.

[Penguin]

There’s nothing wrong with DI gas systems.

 

However, the choice to use stainless steel for the barrel is a dealbreaker. Cheap surplus Com-block ammo is usually a steel jacket with a copper wash. That will end up eating up a non chrome lined or non- nitrocarburized barrel very quickly.

[rodan]

There’s nothing wrong with DI gas systems.

 

I didn't say there was...

[THE RZA]

There’s nothing wrong with DI gas systems.

 

However, the choice to use stainless steel for the barrel is a dealbreaker. Cheap surplus Com-block ammo is usually a steel jacket with a copper wash. That will end up eating up a non chrome lined or non- nitrocarburized barrel very quickly.

 

 

 

Most reviews i’ve read on this rifle advise against using steel case for that reason + it being horribly inaccurate. So to use brass cased FMJ would be costly. It’s a cool collectors item i suppose.

[red beast]

guns owners need to stay united and focused.

don't let them put a split between us.

 

don't start berating other gun owners or it will continue and split us.

 

learn the truths and put them on all the liberal/demonrat/socialist/fascist website, comment area, and youtube channel. watch their heads "explode".

 

Democrats Say America Is The Worst Western Country For Mass Shootings. That's A Lie

https://www.dailywire.com/news/27401/democrats-say-america-worst-western-country-mass-hank-berrien#

 

To wit, Barack Obama, June 18, 2015, after the Charleston, North Carolina mass shooting: "Let's be clear: At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries.”

 

Here’s the list of the 18 countries with the top death rate per million people from mass public shootings from 2009 through 2015:

 

1.Norway: 1.888

2.Serbia: 0.381

3.France: 0.347

4. Macedonia: 0.337

5.Albania: 0.206

6.Slovakia: 0.185

7.Switzerland: 0.142

8.Finland: 0.132

9.Belgium: 0.128

10.Czech Republic: 0.123

11.United States: 0.089

12.Austria: 0.068

13.The Netherlands: 0. 051

14.Canada: 0.032

15.England: 0.027

16.Germany: 0.023

17.Russia: 0.012

18.Italy: 0.009

 

 

LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!

[THE RZA]

TL;DR this isn’t a gun politics thread. Back to gun porn

 

 

The Noveske Ghetto Blaster, courtesy of Penguin for showing me. And in Carbine form:

 

 

Geissele Carbine (also thanks to Pengy)

 

 

Love this Larue Upper

 

 

And in my LWRC fanboydom, their new .224 Valkyrie:

 

[red beast]

any thought for this new 6.5 creedmoor rifle?

Introductory Price $2499.99

 

sootch00 review

 

https://wheatonarms.com/the-answer-precision-rifle-2/

[Penguin]

If you’re gonna spend that much you can do better.

[chowser51]

Picked both up today.

 

It only comes with two 17 round magazines. I bought six spare mags at the same time so I could have five per gun.

 

The suppressor height sights seem decent. The front is outlined in orange.

 

Will test fire tomorrow night when I return to work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[THE RZA]

What’s so special about CZ? My one co-worker is obsessed with them. I’m partial to Sig Sauer but that’s only because I own a 226 and that’s what I carry at work. It’s also the only pistol I really know about. I am more in to AR’s and AK’s.

[TSiWRX]

What’s so special about CZ? My one co-worker is obsessed with them. I’m partial to Sig Sauer but that’s only because I own a 226 and that’s what I carry at work. It’s also the only pistol I really know about. I am more in to AR’s and AK’s.

 

 

Get out there and try some.

 

If the 226 Sigs really are the only handguns you have much experience with, that's a part of the problem, right there - it's not only about depth of knowledge, but also breadth.

 

Widen your worldview. Since your co-worker is a CZ-devotee, perhaps he/she can be your guide and let you have a good, long peek into that world? Maybe take you through not only the various "duty/defensive" configurations, but also the gaming configurations as well.

 

I have a local, Quack - who also used to be active on this Forum - whose 1911/2011 collection is really and truly impressive, and who has the knowledge as well as skills (both in terms of smithing/tuning the platform as well as in terms of shooting) to really serve as an amazing mentor/guide to newcomers to that genre. He literally laid out for me a spread of some of the most delicious high-end and custom 1911s and 2011s, and just told me to bring some ammo, pay for the range time, and have at it.

 

I'm sure your co-worker would be more than happy to do the same for you. If you don't know him/her well, let them know that you'd be more than happy to pay for ammo (using ammo of his/her choice - it is their guns, after all) and range-time, and to pick up lunch/dinner afterwards.

 

There's very few hobbyist/enthusiast shooters who'd refuse.

 

"Like" is often very subjective, and I find that this is very true, for me, with CZ's handguns and rifles.

Edited February 27, 2018 by TSi+WRX

[THE RZA]

my co-worker doesn't know anything about guns. He just got in to guns 4 months ago, for one he thinks Glock is the greatest thing ever and glorified the CZ as his holy grail. The fact that he is in love with Glock says enough about his gun knowledge.

 

Not too mention I have gone shooting with him 3 times, 2 of them I now refer to him as Weapons Safety Violator because:

 

1) I took him shooting at my range once, I let him shoot my AK and he dropped it twice because he didn't know how to handle recoil. 2nd time he dropped it it broke a magazine, damaged 2 russian steel rounds & caused a negligent discharge. That was the end of the day for him

 

2) We went shooting again another time, he brings his Glock 19 & his LWRC DI Rifle (which he bought at my recommendation) Not paying attention, he loaded an 9MM round in his magazine for the AR. Not knowing this until AFTER he shoots and sees a round stuck in the chamber, it some how fired the projectile off, and the 9MM casing crumpled like a Beer Can in the chamber. After an RSO pryed it out of the chamber he then had to spend $700 for a gunsmith to re-machine the striking point star because it was so nicked and fouled his BCG wouldn't seat. Honestly should have just emailed LWRCI and had them warranty him a new upper.

 

So that's why I don't understand what his fascination with CZ is, I strongly believe he is a tactical hypebeast and loves any hot brand.

 

I myself loved the LWRC from the day I bought my first AR. Saw the OD Green SPR on the shelf at the gun store, then when I saw the price I gawked and said to myself if I'm still in to guns in a few years, I'll buy that. Which held true to this day. Bought the P226 because i saw it in the latest Bond movie, Spectre. I do love shooting that gun but with how limited and regulated handgun sales are in New Jersey, I don't even bother with handguns.

 

If I can buy as many Rifles & Shotguns as I want with my FID and where I'm only really limited to using my guns at a Range, I'll buy the most fun gun I can buy for my money, an AR or AK.

 

I will be buying another handgun soon as I do have a handgun permit valid for another 4 months to buy one. Just undecided with what I want. I do carry at work per certain client requirements that we have, I carry the 226. Great gun but not the best to carry. I'm looking at either the P320 Compact or the P229 compact. I've held both the Glock 17 and the new P365 and they were both too small for my hands. I'm leaning towards the 229.

[THE RZA]

also TSI, speaking of the LWRC. I've been shooting it a lot more with just the MRO rather than co-witnessed and it's been awesome. Really tight groupings especially in close range shooting. only time I go co-witness now is 100+ yards.

[Hepy117]

I am looking to pick up a 75B omega urban grey after i pick up a ruger mark IV for my fiance since she's not into recoil of my coiple 9mm's. I shot a cz75B stainless and loved it. I shot it the same and sometimes better than my g19 which i have a few thousand rounds through. For $500-$600 for a full metal gun, i think it's a good deal. I also shot a p226 at the same time as the CZ. I loved the sig also, but since i shoot the cz the same as the sig, i am fine with saving a few hundred and getting the cz

[TSiWRX]

also TSI, speaking of the LWRC. I've been shooting it a lot more with just the MRO rather than co-witnessed and it's been awesome. Really tight groupings especially in close range shooting. only time I go co-witness now is 100+ yards.

 

Great!

 

Keep at it, and see if you can start stretching that "no cowitness" out more and more.

 

Per SMEs of both optics and guns like John "Chappy" Chapman and others, a proficient shooter should be able to easily engage 18-inch-ish x 10-inch-ish pates at 300 yards with quality 1 to 4 MOA "red dot" type optics, on a typical 14.5" to 16" AR.

 

This is with the dot alone, no cheating and peeking through those irons!

 

 

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my co-worker doesn't know anything about guns. He just got in to guns 4 months ago....

 

Not too mention I have gone shooting with him 3 times, 2 of them I now refer to him as Weapons Safety Violator because....

 

YIKES!!!!

 

It looks like he's just a tactical-fanboi, then.

 

But still, given that he's got the guns, you might as well just use him for them.

 

And hey, at least when he's shooting with you, you can hopefully correct him on some of his rather dire problems!

 

2) We went shooting again another time, he brings his Glock 19 & his LWRC DI Rifle (which he bought at my recommendation) Not paying attention, he loaded an 9MM round in his magazine for the AR. Not knowing this until AFTER he shoots and sees a round stuck in the chamber, it some how fired the projectile off, and the 9MM casing crumpled like a Beer Can in the chamber. After an RSO pryed it out of the chamber he then had to spend $700 for a gunsmith to re-machine the striking point star because it was so nicked and fouled his BCG wouldn't seat. Honestly should have just emailed LWRCI and had them warranty him a new upper.

Holy crap, how the HECK did he ever manage that?!?!!!

 

So that's why I don't understand what his fascination with CZ is, I strongly believe he is a tactical hypebeast and loves any hot brand.

Given his backstory - which, in all honesty, you should've ponied-up with earlier - I'd say that you're right, that he's just regurgitating what he's heard/read.

 

But in all honesty, mechanically, they're fine weapons (as are many others) - subjectively, though, there's a lot to like....but then again, it's subjective.

 

For me, I like them because they feel (subjective) great in my hands and point naturally (again, subjective). That, objectively, their triggers can be sublime and that their overall reliability and durability are on-par certainly doesn't hurt.

 

I don't own any (yet), though. Came really really close to, once.

 

 

I will be buying another handgun soon as I do have a handgun permit valid for another 4 months to buy one. Just undecided with what I want. I do carry at work per certain client requirements that we have, I carry the 226. Great gun but not the best to carry. I'm looking at either the P320 Compact or the P229 compact. I've held both the Glock 17 and the new P365 and they were both too small for my hands. I'm leaning towards the 229.

Since you're self-admittedly less of a handgunner and have much more experience with long-guns, I would really advise that you pursue some good instruction before you make that more difficult/limited purchase.

 

Judging a gun purely by feel is a horrible thing. It's like only sitting in the car in the showroom before you buy it.

 

You've gotta give the thing a fair shake.

 

But that said, yes, the Glock is rather svelte - compared to the width of the P226. Even so, hulking guys like Steve Fisher and guys with hands like Robert Vogel still seem to shoot the Glock just fine........

 

Which wraps us back to the CZs - see, subjective, right?

Edited February 28, 2018 by TSi+WRX

[THE RZA]

It’s more so just playing by the rules or my state, the fact I have to go through a pain in the ass process every time I want a pistol, I just don’t bother. That and if all I can do is have it for home defense or take it to the range, I rather have an AR. They’re more fun to shoot IMO.

 

 

My experience with pistols was having to quality on an M9 when i was in, and periodically taking them down to our bunker range in the armory to function check them. I didn’t do pistols that often, i would use my seniority as an excuse to take a drum and a M249, 240, M27 or Ma Deuce down to the bunker and make sure they still worked or grab a few mags and shoot some M4’s & M16’s instead of the pistols [emoji846]

Edited February 28, 2018 by THE RZA

[Merc6]

Quote sucks for me, can't quote anyone.

 

 

Either way HFS! I had my sister and niece a the range and the closest I came to doing that was 9mm and .380 but I caught it as I was loading the mag. Same time I also caught them trying to pull an H&K reverse bullet mag situation. Out of all that they did well. That guy seems like the guys I seen on the range in the military. The type to shoot their ammo and trying to go down range while the line is still hot to see how they did.

 

Not sure why, but folks call the CZ pistols the hipster brand. I fired a few but wasn't wowed by it. I wasn't a fan of the looks of them. As for the whole M9 thing, that's literally why I ran out and grabbed my 1st Glock. walking around 8-10 hours with that thing I wanted lighter. We had M11's in our armory but I never got a chance to fire them as OSI rarely ever fires with SF. The civilians contracted to us just had 92's and neutered mags. That's when I realized the 92 guide rods were plastic over our M9's metal. They felt cheaper as well but my M9 wore Pentagon SF wooden grips. Kinda not that much of a fair comparison. Being in the DMV area with Maryland folks as my recommendation that's the preferred pistol to get. All the guys ran G22 and said if we needed to toss mags to each other It would be easier. Fast forward I kinda went from G22 to G17 as it's cheaper to shoot and I don't like the feel of .40 though the G22. My favorite Sig is 226 Legion SAO and P938 BRG. With all access range pass I can rent it all and just pay for the range ammo.

[chowser51]

Joyous day. Two guns came back in today. So my P10C with suppressor, Glock 35 and SIG P228 refinished by CCR and my latest 7.5” 300blk build with a pdw stock. Can’t wait for the tax stamp for that suppressor. It will be a really short rifle. (Sandman-K suppressor)