joeleodee Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Hey all. Just because I'm fascinated with tuning, I like to look at other people's WOT logs and compare them against other ones and assess the information. Also, I'm getting bored with my own logs. So, if you would indulge me, let's have a look. State the following to accompany the files. -Vehicle year, make, and model -Manual or Automatic transmission. -Power upgrades -Gear used to capture datalog If you want, let me know and I can run your logs through the Airboy's Dyno and Virtual Dyno if you want. Make sure at least the following is logged; engine speed, boost, MAFv, MAF g/s, throttle position, load. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeleodee Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Nobody wants to humor me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heiche Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Ok here's one - it's a 3rd gear WOT log I did from September. Basic mods: -e85 -bnr 16g -dw 1000 sidefeed injectors -3" dp, resonated midpipe, stock cans -custom intake/maf -stock tmicBtSsm_20150901_091210.csv BtSsm - Android app/Bluetooth adapter. LV, logging, gauges and more. For 05-14 Legacy (GT, 2.5, 3.0, 3.6), 02-14 WRX, 04-14 STi, 04-14 FXT, 05-09 OBXT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidxsnake Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Here's one for you. Removed tune-specific things (Ign timing, MAF Volts, etc). IIRC, this was a 4th-gear WOT pull. Mods: - JmP VF46 Custom - Cobb Downpipe - eBay/X02/FMS/etc. catback - Cobb SF intake - Perrin TMIC - GS EBCS - Tuning Alliance Protune, 93 pump gasWOT.csv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnguyenbb6 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Heres mine from my recent etune with Phatbotti Tuning(Phatron). Some info has been removed from the log since it was a paid tune. '06 LGT 04 STi 6spd, 3.9 R180, RWD Rotated GT3071 with 3" T04b Compressor housing(ATP) and .82 exhaust housing Tial 44mm WG ID1000 3" exhaust MAF located in blowthrough orientation 93oct, SD tune Log was done in 3rd so it looks a bit laggy.v13 wot 2-1.csv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeleodee Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 Thanks guys. One thing I'm finding and I know it's no rule, but if all parameters are tuned properly, the peak MAF g/s is very close to the peak whp figure. I like to see the differences between the different setups. Keep them coming. And Bnguyen, are you planning on going e85 in the future? That turbo would love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnguyenbb6 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I was on pump and E85 before I converted it to a rotated set up. I'm pretty much out of fuel for the Walbro 255/ID1000 combo so I can't turn the boost up more on E85. It hit 380-400whp/350-370wtq @ 20psi and IDC 95-105%. With the high chance of driving to a drift event this year, I opted to just KISS and just get tuned on pump so I wouldn't have to lug a drum of E85 around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeleodee Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 I hear ya. I'm out of fuel pump on my setup with e85. I need to hardwire a Walbro 450 but I'm also at the limit of my stock long block and transmission so should I really take it further? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeleodee Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 If interested, here's my log with VD plot. I took this this morning and when I log with my AP, for some reason the connection cuts out in the middle of the run. Anyway, as you can see, even though I didn't log AFR, I know I'm running lean since I've logged it plenty of times. You can also tell I'm beyond my limit with fueling as the IDCs are at 111% and this is at only 5300rpm. datalog27.csv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy_Guy Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Figured I'd throw mine up here. -2007 Legacy Spec-B -Manual transmission -3rd gear pull -Engine mods: Cryotune Stage 2 E-tune Cobb LWCP AEM dryflow panel filter AVO After maf hose AVO intercooler Mishimoto TB hose Cobb BPV Grimmspeed downpipe Invidia Q300 catback2015 Cryo complete-3rd gear S#.csv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeleodee Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 That looks like a pretty solid tune. I don't like using the Mustang Dyno setting because it's low reading. For instance, according to your graph, you have picked up miniscule if any gains over stock and I can tell by the logs that's not true. Run it again in a different setting and take a look at the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need bb Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I attached my 3rd gear pull. Looks like there was a knock event when I started the run so that is why it is pulling timing. Mods: Kinugawa TD05-20G GS TMIC DP/Catback K&N Typhoon DW 850cc Walbro 255WOT.csv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeleodee Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 I've had that issue with pulled timing when the run started. It didn't affect the run, however. The tune looks pretty solid and pretty much exactly what I expected from a TD05 20g. Here's your graph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need bb Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Thanks. I did the log up a slight incline so I would expect my numbers to be a bit better on a flat road. The setup has a little bit left in it as I could probably increase the boost a bit in the upper RPM range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeleodee Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 Go ahead and get a log on a flat road. I'll load it in. If you give me your tire size, that can make the graph more accurate also. I also just noticed you have a wagon. That's a little more weight which would increase the numbers in the graph. But yeah, I notice by the log that's a fairly conservative tune. The curve looks good and your afrs are where they need to be. I'd be happy with that tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidxsnake Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Any chance you'd mind running my log (posted above)? Curious how the virtual dyno compares to the real one =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeleodee Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 I'm sorry. I forgot to post yours. Give me a minute. I'll run it. edit; I see why I didn't post it. You don't have throttle position logged. That's okay. I can estimate where you went WOT and edit that in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeleodee Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 Here you go. The first one is the dynojet setting. The next is the Mustang dyno setting. Is this close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solidxsnake Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Ah, I see. I figured req torque would be a good indication of throttle position. And indeed it is pretty close! Numbers are a bit different (higher whp, lower wtq), but the curves look pretty similar in general. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeleodee Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 Ah, I see. I figured req torque would be a good indication of throttle position. And indeed it is pretty close! Numbers are a bit different (higher whp, lower wtq), but the curves look pretty similar in general. Thanks! My pleasure. I've noticed those differences when comparing a lot of VD graphs to real graphs. WTQ can read considerable lower with WHP just slightly higher. If that's the case in general, what WTQ would mine read on a real dyno. The curves are similar, however. Either way, dynos read differently and they are really only a tuning tool.Thanks again for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnguyenbb6 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 The elevation of the road will change the shape of the curve also. Do a pull on a slight incline vs slight decline vs flat vs flat with an incline at the end. All different curves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeleodee Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 That's absolutely correct. That's why it's important when using any road dyno program that pulls are done on flat roads. The program is only as good as the data inputted. I do logs up and down inclines to observe how the setup reacts to different load situations, but i know not to use those logs for accurate VD graphs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artard Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 howdy, i'm looking for some constructive feedback. more so on how my log is showing knock... any advice would be appreciated. 05 legacy gt 5mt catless up, catted down, cobb ap on stg2 91oct 3rd gear log1: wot (didn't log some stuff) log2: semi-wot If you're not into diagnosing for knock, let me know and i'll show myself out 0_o thx!log1.csvlog2.csv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serx7 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 howdy, i'm looking for some constructive feedback. more so on how my log is showing knock... any advice would be appreciated. 05 legacy gt 5mt catless up, catted down, cobb ap on stg2 91oct 3rd gear log1: wot (didn't log some stuff) log2: semi-wot If you're not into diagnosing for knock, let me know and i'll show myself out 0_o thx! AF Learning seems high-ish, and your logs show single and double-count Feedback and Fine Learning knock in a variety of load/rpm conditions. Might be a leak (causing you to run lean), might be false knock from something rattling underhood. Check out what your AF Learning #1A, B, C, D are, and bang on stuff underhood to see if there might be something rattling (loose turbo heat shield or other heat shields, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artard Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 AF Learning seems high-ish, and your logs show single and double-count Feedback and Fine Learning knock in a variety of load/rpm conditions. Might be a leak (causing you to run lean), might be false knock from something rattling underhood. Check out what your AF Learning #1A, B, C, D are, and bang on stuff underhood to see if there might be something rattling (loose turbo heat shield or other heat shields, etc). Thanks, took a quick log on the way home from work. Not sure what af learning a,b,c,d are but maybe you can give me some pointers? I don't understand what a/b/c/d mass airflow ranges indicate. I'm running 93oct on a 91oct map. was informed this would ensure i'd run on the rich side...log3.csv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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