legacybt Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) I'm building my dream do-everything car: ski rig, gear hauler, road tripper, autocrosser, and DD. Back in 2014 I tore it apart for a major overhaul, and it's been under the knife a few times since then. Engine - Current VF-52 Turbo CNT Catted Downpipe Grimmspeed UP Cobb SF Intake Grimspeed EBCS Forge BPV DW65 Fuel Pump DW 740cc Injectors Bulletproof TMIC Mod Group N Engine Mounts Group N Pitch Stop Group N Trans Mount Borla Cat-back Exhaust K2 Gear Spec Neo Dual Exhaust Prodrive Oil Filler Cap Stock Engine Cover Engine - Future Killer B Oil Pickup - Purchased Killer B Oil Baffle - Purchased 2008 Sti Oil Pan - Purchased Crawford V2 AOS - Purchased ID1000 Injectors - Purchased Radium fuel pulse dampers - Purchased Grimmspeed TMIC - Purchased Custom TGV Deletes - Purchased Tomei EL Headers - Purchased Subtle Solutions Radiator Shroud - Purchased Subtle Solutions Radiator Shroud - Purchased Radium Top Feed Conversion Rails - Purchased Rotated Uppipe and Downpipe with EWG Recirc Garrett GTX2867R Tial 38mm EWG Company23 Anti-Surge EBCS 3.5" Custom Catback Exhaust Surprises to come next spring/summer Suspension/Steering - Present Koni Shocks Epic Springs 3/8" Saggy Butt Spacers RCE Tarmac 1's 500F/450R Springs AVO Sway Bar Reinforcement Brackets Whiteline 24mm Front Sway Bar Whiteline 20mm Rear Sway Bar Whiteline Rear Camber Bushings Group N LCA Bushings Whitleline KCA334 Anti-Lift Control Arm Bushings Spec B Strut Mounts RCE Forged Lowering Camber Plates JDM Sti Pillowball Toe Links Whiteline KTA124 Camber Arms Slotted Trailing Arm Mounts Whiteline Steering Rack Bushings Kartboy Endlinks Whiteline Front Roll Center Kit STI Solid Steering Intermediate Shaft STI Strut Tower Brace JDM STI "Front Support Kit" SPT Lower Chassis Brace Full Set of Spec B Aluminum Arms Modified Trailing Arm Mounts Transmission/Drivetrain/Shifter - Present 2002 JDM STi Transmission, Suretrac Front Diff 2004 USDM STi 6-Speed & R180 Clutch Pack Diff 2015 USDM STi Transmission & 2007 Spec B R180 Torsen Diff DSS 27mm Shaft Rear Axles Whiteline Diff Inserts Exedy Lightweight Racing Flywheel STI Stock Clutch Cobb 6-spd STS Cobb 6-spd Shift Knob Redline Shifter & E-brake Boot Kartboy Rear Shifter Bushing Group N Rear Shifter Bushing Kartboy Front Shifter Bushing Group N Crossmember Bushings Torque Solution Shifter Bushings DCCDPro - Purchased, not installed Brakes Grimmspeed Master Cylinder Bracket STI Brake Booster/Master Cylinder DBA T3 Rotors Hawk HPS Pads Brembo Calipers F&R DBA Rear conversion rotors Centric Premium Front Rotors DBA 5K 2-Piece Front Rotors EBC 'Yellowstuff' Pads Stock Brembo Pads Stoptech Street Pads Goodridge SS Brake Lines Accessories/Interior - Present Homelink Mirror Raising Centre Console Jazzy Aux-in Mod STI Gauge Pack Redlinegoods Black Leather Shifter and E-Brake Boots WRX Pedals & Dead Pedal JDM GR STi Recaro Driver's Seat Accessories - Future Zeitronix ZT-2 Audio JDM Double DIN Radio Bezel Pioneer Appradio4 Hertz HSK-165 and HCX-165 Speakers Audison LRX6.9 Amp ARC Audio XDI850.5 Amp Kicker IQ1000.5 mounted under driver's seat JL Audio 10W6V2-D4 10" Subwoofer in JL Stealthbox Knukonceptz and Monoprice Wiring Sound deadened front & rear doors, trunk 160 Amp Alternator Footwear Autocross: JDM Enkei ES Tarmac 17x8 +45 with 235/40r17 Nitto Nt-01 DD/Summer: Sport Edition KV5 18x8 +50 with 225/40R18 General G-Max Rays Gramlights 57max 18x8.5 +45 with 255/40R18 Advan AD08-R Rays Gramlights 57xtreme 18x8.5 +33 with 225/40R18 Direzza ZII Rota Slipstream 17x8 +48 with 225/45R17 Ventus V12 Winter: 17x8 FRD POS Wheels with Hankook Icebears Rota SVN 18x8.5 +44 with 225/40R18 Dunlop Wintersport OEM Legacy GT 17x7 with Hankook Icebears Rays Gramlights 57max 18x8.5 with 225/40R18 Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 Appearance/Exterior Custom painted headlights Rev D-F JDM Tails Bayson R Front Lip Plastidipped Foglight Housings JDM Rain Visors OEM Aero Crossbars OEM Trailer Hitch This is what things looked like laid out on the floor before I pulled the car into its new home: http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=182513&stc=1&d=1400043403 http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=182514&stc=1&d=1400043403 Keep posted for updates! http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=182531&stc=1&d=1400043841 http://i.imgur.com/FjWmce9.jpg Edited September 17, 2018 by legacybt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liljonson Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 the first picture with the parts laid out is amazing. Good luck. I'm actually excited to see how this turns out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Looks like an awesome list, the only thing I would wonder about is how much the stock intercooler will be holding you back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted May 14, 2014 Moderators Share Posted May 14, 2014 Looks like an awesome list, the only thing I would wonder about is how much the stock intercooler will be holding you back. With a VF52 probably not much, and it will stay cooler in the pits while autoX'ing. "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 even with a vf52, a larger TMIC will flow better and make more power, more reliably. bulletproof mod or not, OP has nice diffs in that trans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 It'll never handle like a 944. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators BarManBean Posted May 14, 2014 Moderators Share Posted May 14, 2014 even with a vf52, a larger TMIC will flow better and make more power, more reliably. bulletproof mod or not, OP has nice diffs in that trans. Yeah, like I said--"not much". Didn't say it wouldn't make a difference to switch to an aftermarket option, but the stocker with plastic endtanks DOES have heatsoak benefits in autoX situations. Fulton's stock intercooler was generally cooler than my Perrin when we were sitting around with the cars running waiting for our own runs. Either way though, 100% agree on a really nice pile of parts. OP: nice build, look forward to following along "Bullet-proof" your OEM TMIC! <<Buy your kit here>> Not currently in stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holla Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Wow, It's rare that someone posts a future mod list like that and then actually has all the parts to deliver! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacybt Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) It'll never handle like a 944. Haha no it won't. Lift-throttle oversteer isn't quite the same as power-on oversteer on ancient all season tires. That being said, having the solid intermediate shaft instead of the stock rubber damper one - coupled with the whiteline steering bushings and misc chassis braces should at least bring some of that feel into the equation. 245/40/r17 star specs (or comparable) should keep things interesting too! Yeah, like I said--"not much". Didn't say it wouldn't make a difference to switch to an aftermarket option, but the stocker with plastic endtanks DOES have heatsoak benefits in autoX situations. Fulton's stock intercooler was generally cooler than my Perrin when we were sitting around with the cars running waiting for our own runs. Either way though, 100% agree on a really nice pile of parts. OP: nice build, look forward to following along Yeah, there were a couple considerations for staying with the stocker. Heat soak was one, but my engine also has 115,000 miles on it so pushing it closer to the reliability limit isn't high on my priorities. I have an arduino-based intercooler spray project on the back burner right now too, which should combat that heat soak pretty nicely. Wow, It's rare that someone posts a future mod list like that and then actually has all the parts to deliver! Welcome to the world of a mechanical engineer with too much time and just enough money Edited May 14, 2014 by legacybt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holla Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Welcome to the world of a mechanical engineer with too much time and just enough money I'm a fellow ME. I have the opposite problem though. I'll be lucky if I get my snow tires off this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacybt Posted May 20, 2014 Author Share Posted May 20, 2014 I'm a fellow ME. I have the opposite problem though. I'll be lucky if I get my snow tires off this year. Haha I'm loving the free time I have after graduation. I know it won't last forever. BUILD UPDATE Before I made my first post, the trans, diff, axles, brakes, turbo, exhaust and shifter were out of the car. A la this (picture taken with new UP and Turbo in) http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=182982&stc=1&d=1400562826 The STI Brake booster is installed, DW 740cc injectors are installed, Whiteline steering rack bushings are in, and the STI intermediate shaft is installed as well. The Grimmspeed uppipe is installed, and the VF-52 was installed for a while... And then I spent part of the weekend replacing vacuum hoses and oil lines. My engine looks like this now: http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=182983&stc=1&d=1400562826 Lesson Learned: Apparently the OEM turbo oil feed / AVCS valve line isn't an easy install. I searched beforehand and couldn't find any walkthroughs, and now I understand why. Intake manifold, TGV, Coolant crossover and numerous vacuum/electrical connections later it's finally installed. Had I known, I would have left the original one in place. There goes a couple days Reinstallation will have to wait until new gaskets come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyS Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Interesting build project. I have autocrossed mine several times since 2008. With some suspension parts, it now has neutral handing instead of understeer. Overall, it is a huge and heavy car to autocross! I can beat some miatas but the ones with hoosiers and good drivers beat me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 the legacy can be a winner in ESP class nationally with the right mods and driver. That much is fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chameleon Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 (edited) loving the first parts pic ... now im sure someone could have warned you about those oil feed lines ... had you asked lol!. Edited May 22, 2014 by Chameleon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacybt Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 (edited) the legacy can be a winner in ESP class nationally with the right mods and driver. That much is fact. I won't be classed in ESP unfortunately. Far from it - I think I'll be in SM. I don't expect to be competitive, I'm just looking to make my Legacy as fun as possible around the course! loving the first parts pic ... now im sure someone could have warned you about those oil feed lines ... had you asked lol!. Haha yeah, if only I had asked about those oil lines.. ~~~ Minor update, I didn't have much time to work on the car. The parts are in to put the top half of my engine back together though! Rear diff and axles are in, and new hubs are installed all around. http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=184208&stc=1&d=1401688114 This was pretty toast: http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=184209&stc=1&d=1401688114 Edited June 2, 2014 by legacybt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxkita Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 With upgraded turbo & front diff, you'll be in SM. I showed up to my first (only) autox classed as SM and the only competitor was a Cadillac coupe on BFG R1 slicks. To say I was outclassed was an understatement. If you can find a Whiteline ALK-M kit, that will help your turn-in. PUtting on the Cusco under-body braces will stiffen up the back alot. Adding the Whiteline/SpecB rear suspension bits will help as well. Wagon tends to oversteer pretty quick. However, if you can keep your foot planted you can drive it out on sticky tires. On all-seasons, you'll have to lift. Build my car Boxkita Track days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacybt Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 With upgraded turbo & front diff, you'll be in SM. I showed up to my first (only) autox classed as SM and the only competitor was a Cadillac coupe on BFG R1 slicks. To say I was outclassed was an understatement. If you can find a Whiteline ALK-M kit, that will help your turn-in. PUtting on the Cusco under-body braces will stiffen up the back alot. Adding the Whiteline/SpecB rear suspension bits will help as well. Wagon tends to oversteer pretty quick. However, if you can keep your foot planted you can drive it out on sticky tires. On all-seasons, you'll have to lift. I've been drooling over your wagon for a while now - it's hawt. Looks like a blast to drive! I've been considering the ALK kit, but budget is a major constraint for me. I'm keeping close enough to stock ride height (1" drop) that it's not totally necessary, and more of a want-to-have that I'll add somewhere down the road. The same can be said for the spec b bits - I know how important unsprung weight is but I can't justify another $1100 (Canadian Premium) to save 7ish lbs per rear corner. If something comes up locally for much cheaper, though.... I picked up some BNIB JDM Sti lateral links and a whiteline positive power kit the other day. Hopefully they should help the sloppy rear end I have now (along with some Tarmac 1 coils pending purchase!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxkita Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I've been drooling over your wagon for a while now - it's hawt. Looks like a blast to drive! I've been considering the ALK kit, but budget is a major constraint for me. I'm keeping close enough to stock ride height (1" drop) that it's not totally necessary, and more of a want-to-have that I'll add somewhere down the road. The same can be said for the spec b bits - I know how important unsprung weight is but I can't justify another $1100 (Canadian Premium) to save 7ish lbs per rear corner. If something comes up locally for much cheaper, though.... I picked up some BNIB JDM Sti lateral links and a whiteline positive power kit the other day. Hopefully they should help the sloppy rear end I have now (along with some Tarmac 1 coils pending purchase!). Gire (in Vancouver) was selling some suspension bits awhile back, might drop him a line. The Cusco braces will have more to do with stiffening the rear than other stuff. For the Tarmac 1, you'll find they are soft. When I talked to them, they were offering "spirited driving" rather "autox" settings. If you are going after an autox car, I would get your suspension tuned for that rather than DD. Otherwise, its a waste of money. You can always spin the selector to "soft" to make up for the harsher ride. Also, spend the money on a good corner-balance, which is what makes c/o worth the money. I would tune in quite a bit of forward rake to keep the front planted and it will mean less delay waiting for the weight transfer to the rear (which slows your exit from a corner). Build my car Boxkita Track days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacybt Posted June 6, 2014 Author Share Posted June 6, 2014 Gire (in Vancouver) was selling some suspension bits awhile back, might drop him a line. The Cusco braces will have more to do with stiffening the rear than other stuff. For the Tarmac 1, you'll find they are soft. When I talked to them, they were offering "spirited driving" rather "autox" settings. If you are going after an autox car, I would get your suspension tuned for that rather than DD. Otherwise, its a waste of money. You can always spin the selector to "soft" to make up for the harsher ride. Also, spend the money on a good corner-balance, which is what makes c/o worth the money. I would tune in quite a bit of forward rake to keep the front planted and it will mean less delay waiting for the weight transfer to the rear (which slows your exit from a corner). I'll add the braces to the list, I have to save up for some better rubber. Unfortunately my budget is maxed for the time being. Those coils are where the "compromise" part of this build comes in. In reality this is a DD, and a lot (95%) of my non-commute driving is just that - spirited. I spend too much time on rough pavement (Duffy Lake Road, anyone?) to justify a full auto-x setup. Spring rates on the tarmacs are still higher than the epic springs that I'm running now, and the added travel will be very welcome - hence the relatively high ride height. A corner balance is definitely in the books. A few years down the road when I have the space I'll probably grab a pre-modified miata for just that. Until then.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxkita Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 if you have $1600 US lying around, I have 235/40/17 BFG R1 mounted on Enkei PF01 17x8 that fit perfectly. Stick like nothing you've ever used. Build my car Boxkita Track days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacybt Posted June 7, 2014 Author Share Posted June 7, 2014 if you have $1600 US lying around, I have 235/40/17 BFG R1 mounted on Enkei PF01 17x8 that fit perfectly. Stick like nothing you've ever used. Haha I was eyeing those a while back. I'm on the lookout for some 18" rims without rubber, and 17" streetable auto-x rubber (a la starspecs) without rims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brum Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 the legacy can be a winner in ESP class nationally with the right mods and driver. That much is fact. Wut? I have never seen a Legacy at a national event in the midwest. Let alone heard of one competing nationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) I took mine to a couple national events. mostly in the northeast. At the 2011 NJ Prosolo, if i hadn't snapped axles on the second day i was ready to be in trophy contention. was only lightly off the pace on the right side course and was ready to throw down the second day. And this was against the likes of Sam Strano and Sam Krauss Also in 2008, at the finger lakes prosolo, my Co-drive put down the single fastest ESP time there but ran out of chances to do it 1 more time to take the win. ended up in 4th, only 6/10ths back from the combined time lead. and those were the only 2 national level events i took it to. I have consistently beat the 2013 prosolo ESP winner at local competition. My LGT was very competitive on a national level. if i had gone for fender modification and wide tires, it would have done some serious business. The car is very capable and you can get it below 3200lbs with simple mods. my car was 3277 with the stock seats and battery. Edited June 9, 2014 by whitetiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacybt Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 Quick update before a serious weekend of wrenching I got me some tires (nitto nt-01)! http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=186341&stc=1&d=1403892876 http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=186340&stc=1&d=1403892876 Installed rear diff inserts and JDM sti lateral links, along with rear brakes http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=186342&stc=1&d=1403892876 Got the exedy lightweight flywheel and oem sti clutch installed http://legacygt.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=186343&stc=1&d=1403892876 I also finished installing transfer case bearings in the transmission, it's ready to drop in this weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattg Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 You gotta like where this is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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