dougall42 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I have an 05 Legacy n/a wagon with blown motor, its a 5 speed but I'd like to drop the engine from an 05 3.0R Outback in. What would I be letting myself in for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Does anyone make a flywheel and clutch for that set up ? I have no idea, did that engine come with a 5mt ? I'm sure if you called Clutch Masters they could make something up for you. Oh, how deep are your pockets ? Just got get a new OEM short block for $1645, have you heads rebuilt, put a new clutch kit in the car and drive it. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall42 Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 Standard motor won't pull the skin off a rice pudding. Was looking for something as quick as my LGT but more bullet proof. I'm sure there must be a flywheel and pressure plate to fit that motor in Europe or the Japanese market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzerklo Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 It is a good idea, but I am not sure how hard the wiring/ECU would be... I have no hands on experience with this, but if it were easy I think we would see a lot more of these swaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTris Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Does anyone make a flywheel and clutch for that set up ? I have no idea, did that engine come with a 5mt ? I'm sure if you called Clutch Masters they could make something up for you. Oh, how deep are your pockets ? Just got get a new OEM short block for $1645, have you heads rebuilt, put a new clutch kit in the car and drive it. Our 255/257s are $1645, lowest price. The "new" (reman only) NAs are about $500 more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Standard motor won't pull the skin off a rice pudding. Was looking for something as quick as my LGT but more bullet proof. I'm sure there must be a flywheel and pressure plate to fit that motor in Europe or the Japanese market. Are you saying the GT's are not bullet proof ? I got 142k out of my vf40, on dino oil. I put a ej257 in at 154k because of what we did to it early on. High boost, not a good tune. But the wall's didn't look very bad. I have 33K on the ej257 at 21psi. I think you better off to do what I did. see my sig. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-2 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I have an 05 Legacy n/a wagon with blown motor, its a 5 speed but I'd like to drop the engine from an 05 3.0R Outback in. What would I be letting myself in for? More trouble than it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 that should go right in with the harness and ecm change. Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aac0036 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 If you look up H6 Impreza you'll find builds. This is doable, but I haven't seen it in a Legacy and don't know which manual tranny will work. SVX guys used to do it all the time, but the same transmission they used doesn't bolt up to the current crop of H6s. I'd be interested in hearing about what you end up doing because I've always wished for a manual H6 in the states! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_ster Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 There is a 3.0r spec b 6mt I think the trans between 05 3.0 and 2.5 are the same but I don't know for sure Now that's thinking out of the boxer! fyi all 05 + legacy's have built in code reader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall42 Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 The idea may have to go on the back burner for the moment. While I appreciate Max Capacity's points on making the turbo engine last (mine in my LGT has 350,000kms on it) it's because my commute is 140km each way and that means changing oil once a month. My Outback 3.0R while not as entertaining to drive doesn't make me worry as much about ring lands, blown turbo or timing belt issues. I would just like a manual box behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I think you should be driving a Prius with that kind of milage. As long as you've done your homework on how to make it work. You should be fine. Now the next question is, why not just fine a cheap 3.0r and rebuild it's engine and go from there. Sell this car. I'm just saying... Just found this thread. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/09-3-0r-222702.html I guess your not the only one that knows that's a great engine. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEE-OTTO Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 There is a FW for the H6 as it does come in 6MT in other markets. You would have to do a harness merge and use the H6 ECU other than that its would be a swap over. Hell the rear harness could remain untouched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JmP6889928 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I know that back in 2006 Perrin transplanted a 3.0 into an LGT and they made it work. I actually saw the vehicle finished and running at SEMA that year. It can be done, but it's just a matter of how good you are at solving fitment, wiring, and routing issues. If you think the car is worth the effort, then it's definitely worth it and you'll have something that's unique. Imagine the 3.0 with one of these: http://raptorsc.com.au/ Now THAT would be something interesting and I would bet it would be extremely fun to drive AND bulletproof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall42 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 Well obviously this thread has generated some interest. I'll do the full write up if I go forward. Thanks for all the positive comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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