Bought me a 3.0R (Lots of Custom Goodies, Flared, EVO X Calipers etc...)

[magnusonsubie]

I think I saw your MR2 in the parking lot at stacewars yesterday.

[Dead Mr.]

No that's not me. That's my Seattle clone we chat on the MR2 Forums. Our cars are very similar but mine is purple, it has flush mount headlights, carbon canards, roof spoiler, custom taillights, 350 diffusor, and carbon side scoop add-ons. I'm pretty sure his is turboed and my swap isn't finished and he had good paint.

 

Out of the 2, his is the better car... For now... There are big plans for mine this winter... lol.

Edited July 13, 2015 by Dead Mr.

[Dead Mr.]

Hey yall. Got some work done but I could finish the assy. on the long-block till I get the info I need to get the head and timing chains back on so I did some cleaning and hammered out a bit more on the manifold fab.

 

I got a medley of purple dress-up fasteners and some other pretties for the engine bay.I figure if I’m going to do all this work to make my engine and manifold look so sweet I should doll up the bay to match. I’m still waiting for some purple ti m8 nuts to use on the strut towers, master cylinder and I converted my intake manifold to use 45mm m8 studs and nuts instead of bolts because it will make a better seal that I can torque down more. I know my car is N/A and its prolly overkill but it might not always be N/A lol so least I will be ready if I do boost it. Also got a billet pitch mount cuz its pretty and the stock mounts are those fiber plastic ones that I don’t have a lot of faith in.I bought a stiffer tranny mount too to help with the pitch when I downshift. I’m going to clean up the engine bay a little bit.Make a cool massive strut bar. In honest I’m not trying to make it super functional because I don’t really want to stiffen the ride too much I like it daily driver soft but I do want to use it as a mount for my Oil Catch Can and I’m going to add a Master cylinder brace so my brake pedal feels a little stiffer. I’m going to seal the holes in the engine bay and maybe make a cover for the ABS Pump that I can wrap in vinyl along with the fuse box so its prettier lol. I have an idea but I need to decide if I’m going to do it once my interior trim is done.

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpsjcnaxsco.jpg

 

Got the headers in from Raptor Tuning in Australia and they look really nice.I probably could have made something pretty similar but these were proven and save me a lot of fab time. Also my header is only a 2 piece design but they include a set of mild and stainless steel flanges so you can fab your own y-pipe which is awesome (especially if you’re doing a custom Turbo and you need customize something.

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpswxadqy8x.jpg

 

So I got these, they are from a 350z and thy are pretty nice with the small resonators that look like Cats in case a cop tries to give me shit. I have some used 2.5” stainless I will use to lengthen them to fit. I’ll be making a jig of the stock header so I can mount the Raptor collectors and then fab my y-pipe.

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpsfzjqdafw.jpg

 

Lastly I was going to wait to start my Manifold fab till once I got my flanges but they aren’t done and I want to keep moving forward to I made some dummy flanges and finished cutting all the intake runners and tacked them in place. They are all the same length and because the engine runners are offset they are not symmetrical but given how big the plenum will be I don’t think I’m going to have an issue this will definitely be an upgrade over the stock Manifold and looks really cool so far. I was going to finish setting the runners but when I tried to install the P/S pump I found out the brackets are not the same so I will order one from Subaru today and prey they share at least the same P/S pump. I will do a full write-up of what I learn when I’m don’t for people looking to swap EZ36s into their EZ30Rs its annoying to be the first to try shit cuz its always 2 steps forward and 1 back… lol

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zps9fw8bkgt.jpg

 

 

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpslaefqxhq.jpg

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpskgcrnibh.jpg

I’m hoping to have the info I need to finish the long-block in the next day or 2 s I can get that done and keep making progress. I will be gone the next 2 weekends biking so that gives me 3 more weekends till my b-day when I was hoping to be finished. I’m going to try and work during the week if I have time I will start with pulling the interior trim and wrapping it.

 

Also on a side note I did go biking this weekend and got a killer pic and I just feel like sharing it…

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsrkqrtnse.jpg

lol and if any of you are interested over the winter when I was MIA I really stepped up my drawing game so if you guy are interested I can share that too but since it’s not car related I refrain from posting…

Edited July 13, 2015 by Dead Mr.

[Dead Mr.]

These are the FSMs that we have available on the site. Could be helpful.

 

http://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4487789&postcount=359

 

Dude I finally got to be able to open this. You sir, are my new bestie. Its got everything!

 

Going to sort through and print off the relevant data and get started on my stuff tonight.

 

Thanx!

[Gex]

Glad I could help! Keep shralping, love seeing that old Shiver still running. I look forward to seeing the 3.6r at a trail head soon.

[leoh88]

Good work and planning

[Dead Mr.]

So… been diving into the wiring a little more since last night and I found out f a few things and ran into a few snags. First I used the Manuals and got all the mechanical info I needed for installing the head and the timing chain assembly. Then I got into the wiring by cross referencing the harness so see what they share and what differs.This is what I found:

 

The EZ36 has an Oil Level Sensor the EZ30 does not have.

The EZ36 has Cam Angle Sensors for both the Intake and Exhaust (4 total) whereas the EZ30 Only has Cam Sensors on the Intake Cams.

The EZ36 has Oil Flow Control Valves for all 4 Cams whereas the EZ30 has 2 Flow Control and 2 Switch Valves just the intake Cams.

The EZ30 Has 2 Sensors called Variable Valve Lift Diagnosis Oil Pressure Switches that the EZ36 does not have.

 

Everything Else is exactly the same, which is about 80% of all the components. From what I can find these Valve Lift Switches are what tells the ECU whether the Cam is in High Lift or Low Lift Mode. I believe because the EZ30 only has variable timing on the intake it only needs these switches whereas the EZ36 has both intake and exhaust variable timing it uses the exhaust Cam Angle Sensors to verify its High and Low Lift Modes. From what I can also tell these engine both use the same Trigger system for their timing.

 

With that figured out, I have come to the conclusion that if I install the EZ36 I will not be able to control the variable timing at all, which isn’t a bad thing if the cams go into high lift mode when they are not functioning like the STi heads do when installed in a WRX w/o AVCS control. I have no real way to verify that from what I have for info,so I had a look at the ECUs and it looks like they share the same plug styles meaning I can plug an EZ36 ECU into my Legacy.However the issue is that they only share a few of the same pinouts.

 

So, in closing for this update I will be cross referencing the ECU specs to see if I can make a custom harness that allows the EZ36 ECU to run in my car so I can fully control all functions of the EZ36 without issue. I think I will need de-solder the EZ30 ECU Female Plug and make a conversion harness that runs all the EZ36 Wires to the correct points on the body harness with an additional plug that will run from the ECU to the engine directly that has the additional wires my car does not have (such as the exhaust Cam Angle Sensors)

 

So I will be spending the next week or so cross referencing the ECUs and making a few diagrams to map out the conversion harness I will need to create. Worst case I will have both harnesses mapped so if it turns out I need to get an Standalone ECU I can.I will post all my research as I have it finished so others will hopefully be able to use it for whatever they are doing. Being the pioneer has the bragging rights, but the learning and setbacks because you are paving the way is a considerable annoyance lol.

 

However, I am confident I can get this to work, so I will be moving forward on installing the EZ36 into me Legacy as soon as I have the long block back together and timed. I will not be here for the next 10 days but I’m taking my wiring crap with me so I can hopefully have it sorted out and make progress while I’m not able to work on the car.Needless to say when I started this the amount of info I could gather told me it would not be this involved…But such is life right at least I have the skills to finish the job… I hope… hahaha

 

Later

Johann

[boxkita]

Do you have any drawings of what the intake system will look like with pipes fully connected?

[Dead Mr.]

No its all in my head... Just imagine a sharp angle polygonal plenum with a clear lexan top so you can see the velocity stack goodness. The lexan is 3/8" thick and will be bolted/ sealed around the edges and in the middle. I think I'm painting the manifold black and the inside some cool edgy color that matches my purple. I cant make the final intake design till I get my P/S pump mount from Subaru so I can mount my accessories and make sure everything clears but I intend to make the plenum as big as functionally possible. The intake will leave the throttle body strait back for the MAF will be mounted underneath and then split and head towards each headlight with a black foam filter. I would post up a little doodle but I'm using my free time going through wiring diagrams and getting migraines...

[JohnnyT]

Johann, you are a master at what you do. I really enjoy following this thread, much like the '99 Lego thread you had a few years ago. That was an awesome car. Best Gen2 I have ever seen.

 

Good luck with this new project. I sure it will be awesome.

 

I really love the bike pic. That was amazing.

[Dead Mr.]

Well hey there yall.So here is what I have been working on. I looked at the diagram for the plugs that identify them so check for cross referencing and wire count to see if they were viable to swap etc…

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zps9qo7ykwx.jpg

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpshjxjkwrb.jpg

 

Stuff that’s Red/ Purple are a match

 

Red only is EZ36 Specific

 

Purple only is EZ30 Specific

 

Pink Dot means does not have viable swap or needs to be added to plug into my body harness w/o modification to the body harness.

 

Blue and Orange are viable swaps but not if I reuse the EZ30s ECU

 

Stuff Outlined in Aqua are Location changes

 

Black is Not in scope (tranny stuff its identical)

 

Green was to verify wire number.

 

So this told me that though the harnesses are similar, the EZ30 ECU would not be capable of running the Variable Valve Timing on the EZ36 and because of that probably isn’t a viable option cuz the ECU would probably freak out.

 

So next I looked into the ECUs to see if swapping in a EZ36 2013 Legacy ECU into my car was a viable option. I found the pigtail shapes and pinout count appear to be the same so theoretically the EZ36 ECU can plug into my car… But…. The pinouts are pretty much completely different aside from a few wires so I did another cross reference spread sheet to see how it all paned out.

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpsdi8umxxr.jpg

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpse2affmen.jpg

 

Green: Means there is a Viable Swap and their operating conditions are the same

Pink: Specified to the EZ30

Purple: Specified to the EZ36

Orange: Not needed (auto start crap)

Black: Means the options is only present in one ECU and either needs to be added or removed

 

As you can see a fair amount of the Wiring swaps pretty good. The Rear EZ30 Oil Switching Valves can be repurposed to be the Exhaust Cam Oil Flow Valves. Exhaust Cam Angle sensors, Oil level Sensor etc can be added to a 3rd pigtail to avoid cutting the body hardness. I’m having my Subaru buddy have a look at it to see if this is a viable option I may need to go Stand alone. If I do It will suck but it will make a possible Future 5MT swap a breeze and if I ever drop a Supercharger in here tuning will also be easy so it has its pluses.

 

If this is viable; the next step will be to make a harness that goes from the EZ36 ECU to the Stock ECU Body harness that runs the matched wires to the right spot, any additional or wires that cant be moved in the stock harness will go in a 3rd stand alone pigtail. The on the other side I will redo the EZ36 engine harness to link to my stock harness correctly and then run the added wires to the 3rd plug. This should allow the swap to be plug and play with no permanent modification to my Legacy's body harness in case for some reason I want to swap back or some other unforeseen future idea of mine... lol

 

I may just to all the mechanical fab/ work and then tow the car to my buddy to hash out the wiring together so we can tune it right after. More updates to come. This puts me in a good place to decide once and for all what my next moves are with the wiring so now I can focus on getting the engine in the car and finishing up my header and manifold.

 

I’ll see you all in around 2 weeks. I’m goin on vaykay.

 

Johann

Edited July 15, 2015 by Dead Mr.

[boxkita]

for some reason, i have a vision of the intake plenum off a Corvette. Regardless, looking forward to seeing the finished product.

[SneakyGT]

Can't wait to see what this thing will become! Awesome read. Please sir, (after your vaycay) keep doing what you do!

[Dead Mr.]

Hey yall. So another update time is here. Started my weekend by reinstalling my head, timing the engine and resealing the oil pan, timing, and valve covers. While the Fuji-bon was curing I cleaned/ painted my engine bay and swapped out all the fasteners for my pretty ones I got. Then it was time to drop the EZ36 into its new home and it all bolted in pretty easy. Turns out the timing cover sticks out a little farther then the EZ30 so I had to trim some of the radiator fans.I also found out that the redesign on the EZ36 requires different brackets to hold the P/S pump and AC compressor but luckily they share the same units so I didn’t have to buy a new pump and compressor.Stuck my Manifold parts I have lightly fabed on there for some pics.

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpsl4yluymm.jpg

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpsmustzuhh.jpg

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpslpiaicys.jpg

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpsied5qwkq.jpg

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpsmdhdcgn8.jpg

 

Next it was onto the exhaust. The raptor headers I got were only the collectors so a y-pipe to the cat-back exhaust needed to be made. First I made a Jig of the stock header. I bought a set of downpipes from a 350z because they had bends I needed plus 2 resonators that look like cats and 4 o2 sensor bungs to start.Then I had a piece of 2.5” stainless off a stock car laying around for the strait sections.

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpsq86twwk9.jpg

 

Here is the jig I made. Looks like a sweet guitar. Locates the o2 sensors the rear hanger mount and the basic contour of the Y so I wouldn’t run into the tranny or underbody.

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpswgxzfajl.jpg

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpsmx9nlrsj.jpg

 

And here is my new header. Not super pretty but it works and it only cost me $120.00 in parts to make and a few hours of my time.

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpspafu8rcf.jpg

 

 

And here it is. Fits like a glove.I added that flex pipe thinking I may need it but turns out I prolly didn’t but whateva. I change the rear flange to a standard 2 bolt gasket type so next I need to modify my cat-back to fit up and get rid of the stock donut style gasket. O2 sensor locations changed a bit but no modifications need to install them.

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpsbcbc0ovg.jpg

 

Well that’s pretty much it for now. Once I mod the cat-back I will drop all the exhaust bits and finish weld everything. That should button up the underside so the car should be able to come off the jack-stands and sit on its wheels for the remainder of the swap. I put the EZ30 back on the stand and installed its accessory drive and turns out that the P/S pump and AC compressor are actually closer to the manifold then they are on the EZ36 by about a ½”. I’m going to alter the Manifold to fit the EZ30 and then I will know it can work with either manifold so I think I’m going to move the throttle body back a bit more. I will need to make a jig to locate it in the car on the EZ36 and fabricate the intake so I can put it as close to the firewall as possible to give me the most room to make the surge tank as large as possible.

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpspxzftkf4.jpg

 

As for wiring still no word. I contacted Raptor asking them what they use to Tune their EZ36s and to see if they have a viable standalone option I can order with an EZ36 base-map so we will see what they replay with. Then hopefully I’ll have some direction so I can sort out the engine harness and get that installed. Gotta pull the trim too and re-wrap it cuz I hate that fake wood shit so that’s also on the list. I will also be making a strut bar at some point that has an integrated brake booster brace and an oil catch can mount but that’s lower on the priority list.

 

 

More updates as time permits.

Later.

Edited July 28, 2015 by Dead Mr.

[outbackid]

Good lord, I had seen the original Girodisk Legacy back on SL-I but I never saw the beginning of this build and OH BABY. Gorgeous man, keep up the good work!

[JohnnyT]

Amazing...simply amazing. I'm in awe of the things you do sir.

[SneakyGT]

I second this^^

[Dead Mr.]

Hey yall. Bit of an update. Got all the exhaust pieces welded up aside from the axle backs cuz I need to make new hangers so I will get to that this weekend but I got the car back on its tires again so I could get the trim out of the interior.

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpsnvplawh8.jpg

 

I forgot how sexy she looks on her wheels… lol

 

Also I made some progress making the template for the sheet metal work on my manifold. Ran out of pizza boxes…. But I found some more yesterday and had a yummy dinner so I should have enough to finish now. lol

 

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x223/badwagon/Lego%2030r/image_zpszrwpvisy.jpg

 

I ordered a couple last pieces for the build today so I will prolly get those this and next week so I can keep working on the mechanical while I sort out the ecu/ wiring. I ordered a couple exterior bits to dress up the outside a tad to make the car a little more aggressive with the addition of its added displacement. Clean and subtle though.

 

I finally got a call from my buddy and upon review he things we can possible get the stock ECU to work aside from an issue with the AC. Seems the way the A/C controlled are different between the 2 cars so we might keep my stock ECU and power it, splice the signal wires it needs, and just use it to run the A/C. We can erase its ability to trigger codes because it obviously will since its engine outputs will not be working. We then use the EZ36 ECU to run the engine, and turn off any codes it sends to the lack of any AC inputs. Least that’s what we are thinking. I will probably need to order a couple ECUs so I can de-solder the plug off one to make a bridge harness so I don’t have to do any permanent modification to my dash harness. I’m pretty sure regardless of what I ECU I run, I will line up the EZ36s wiring to the correct wires it shares with my car so it will be easier on the ECU side when it comes to wiring in. Least that will allow me to finish all the work in the engine bay if I start to run out of crap to do while we sort this out.

 

On the other side of things I did find out there are options for stand-alone ECUs but they need to be CAN supported with gives me Motec, Haltec, or Hydra as my only real options. Vipec is not CAN supported so that’s out. I will let you know once I have more sorted out but I still have plenty to do before the wiring stops me.

 

Hoping to get my flanges for the intake manifold this week so I get them surfaced and maybe button up my manifold this weekend.I will still need to have the lexan etched and cut but I need to design what I want to put on it and what shape I want it to be.

 

Anywho that’s all I got for this post. I have also started sorting out and planning the battle strategy for my MR2 race car transformation. But that’s another project… Do we have a non-Legacy thread on here? The MR2 forum is lame, and there is a desktop-know-it-all that likes to try and shoot down my projects and he annoys me… lol

Later

Johann

Edited August 3, 2015 by Dead Mr.

[ar3s technologies]

wow!! thats a mad project!!

subscribed

 

marthy from mighty car mods r using a haltech elite in the "super gramps". legacy wagon swapped ez36 turbo

 

 

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[boxkita]

I have also started sorting out and planning the battle strategy for my MR2 race car transformation. But that’s another project… Do we have a non-Legacy thread on here? The MR2 forum is lame, and there is a desktop-know-it-all that likes to try and shoot down my projects and he annoys me… lol

 

Being a LGT forum, the pickings are slim. However, we have 3 options for you:

Other cars section : http://legacygt.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/other-cars-other-cars-vs-legacy-14.html

Motorsports section : http://legacygt.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/motorsports-38.html

Regional section : http://legacygt.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/pacific-northwest-26.html

[Collin9338]

any word on those flares!?

[Dead Mr.]

I sent out messages. I can get 3 sets shipped tomorrow if I wanted. PM me

[Dead Mr.]

Update: No update. I got a few parts in to finish up some stuff that I'm going to try and make some progress this weekend but my ECU issues still go unanswered. I have sent emails to a few vendors both from here and via email and it seems that nobody needs to make a sale.... My other buddy turned into a flakey douche so I guess I'm on my own. I will start by mapping out both harnesses and then I will finish everything I can while I wait for someone to help me with some answers.

 

I have some other projects I want to take on at some point I can start on but unfortunately I'm getting the point in all of my projects that I dread the most which it when I need to depend on someone else's help. Its where I always get let down lol.

 

Pics of more progress this weekend prolly.

[Kylar]

Fantastic build!! Sorry if i missed it, but any plans for boost? What about a eaton m90 on top

[SneakyGT]

Supercharged h6... Sounds wonderful