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All jokes aside, I do think it is important to get the seating position right ... especially on a trip. I found this clip helpful ....

C'mon captain Kirk are you kidding?..... surely it's not too hard to find a comfortable driving position .... have you tried actually sitting in the seat when you are adjusting it

Thanks for that

I'm still kinda hanging out for an answer to my basic question, so I'll try asking once more before I stop boring y'all I'd basically like to know at what point (if any) is it a waste of time draining and filling. For example, if the drain and fill method replaces 100% of the fluid (which I know it doesn't) then you have a perfect result. 75% percentage replacemnet would still be great (but again not going to happen in the real world) .... I assume 50 % would still be a good result ...... what about 35% or 25% (or maybe less) ...... so is there a cut off point where you would say it's not worth it .... or do you all subscribe to the theory that it can't hurt and any introduced new fluid is a help. Also how much more fluid is drained by dropping the pan.

Interesting that the dealer you referenced recommends a flush. My dealer is one of those believers that preach that the CVT is a sealed unit and doesn't need maintenance ( other than the scheduled inspections.) I did a little bit of Googling and came up with this supposedly "transmission expert" who states ...... "For a manual or CVT transmission a basic drain and fill is all that is required" https://www.thompsonimportrepair.com/transmission-fluid-flushes/ So it looks like there might be not only disagreement about whether the CVT fluid should be changed at all, but also as to whether a drain and fill or a flush, is the way to go

I'm not wanting to discuss whether a fluid change should be done on the CVT or not, because that has been done to death already. My question is specifically related to the benefits (if any) of doing a fluid change (as against a "flush") if the result is only plus or minus 50% (or less) of the "old" fluid is removed and replaced by the "new." I know some of the replies might be that the procedure could be repeated several times to achieve a higher "fluid changeover" figure, but I'm not sure that the high cost of the CVT fluid would justify the multiple changes. Maybe for the DIYer's on the forum then that would lower the financial burden, but for the average joe (me included) who goes to the dealer for most services, I don't really see the value in a fluid change if, as some reports I have read, as little as 1/3rd of the fluid is all that is replaced. I am an admitted skeptic of the "never needs changing" mantra, but I'm not convinced that a "relatively small" addition of "new fluid" is going to make a heap of difference to the health of my CVT. I welcome other opinions.

For those (including myself) who don't know too much about dyno's, I came across this clip that I found interesting and informative.

Well done mate, it's always good to see your show results

"YES" and "NO"

I don't get the variences in maintenance between USA and here. I know local climatic conditions could theoretically be one of the reasons for the differences ... but like you guys, we are a big country with different climatic conditions in the various states. We have the colder states, and snow, and the moderate regions and also the tropical states just like you guys .... so how does that make the service procedures dramatically different? I just had my 24 month service and according to the service manual the diff fluids were "R" (replacement) and not 'I" (inspection). So Subaru Australia tell me I must get my diff fluids changed at 24 months (or 31,000 miles) but you can apparently safely leave it for 100,000 miles? I just don't get it

Keep in mind that fluid change in diffs is a normal part of Subaru 24 month service, so yours would have been changed at the dealer.

I believe you ..... but I don't think I'll try it

I am a pretty conservative driver in regards to the throttle. I take off at the lights as you appear to do ...... I would call it "normally' as against "gently" ..... unless there is some imminent disaster approaching, I don't ever see the need to be the first car away from a dead stop ...... I keep up with the traffic without the need to be the "leader." As a result .... I have never felt the "rubber band" and like a previous poster BobbyR wrote " .. it actually feels almost like a regular automatic transmission complete with apparent shift points. Not sure I'd even know it was a CVT if I wasn't told ..." maybe one day I'll turn my baseball cap around backwards and turn up the stereo 10 more notches, and drive like a maniac for a day, and see if I can experience this rubber band effect.

That's a very interesting comment. Despite my recent research on speedometers themselves, I had not considered the point you have raised. After reading your post I have consulted Doctor Google and it seems the answer is not the same for all vehicles. The first link below appears to support your comments 100% .... but the others following, seem to indicate that there are exceptions to your theory. http://pugetsoundblogs.com/roadwarrior/2006/02/15/are-vehicle-odometers-accurate/ https://www.quora.com/Does-the-speedometer-and-odometer-work-in-tandem And finally, this last website contains the following paragraph ... " .. The odometer, which directly reflects what the sensors are recording, doesn't have the same built-in inaccuracy as the speedometer. If your speedometer is off, it doesn't necessarily follow that the odometer is inaccurate too ..." https://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/culture/commuting/why-you-may-not-be-driving-as-fast-as-you-think/article11487709/ Thanks for the post, I'd be interested in what others on the forum think.

Thanks for the reply. In your first sentence above you say "By law in most countries, they cannot over state your speed. Unless I am misreading what you are saying, my understanding is that in law most countries state that speedos can overstate actual speeds but not UNDERSTATE. I believe that here in Australia we follow the Euoropean standard of allowing a maximum speedo tolerance of 4% plus 2 kms ABOVE the actual vehicle speed, but speedos cannot show UNDER the vehicles actual speed. Thanks also for your explanation on the error increase expressed as a percentage ..... but I still am unsure why my speedo starts to be "innacurate" only at 90 kms and not at any speed from 0 to 90. Going by what you are saying, shouldn't the error incrementally increase from zero??

Mine is similar to yours, except mine UNDERSTATES the speed. Mine is exact speed (compared with GPS) up until approx 95 kph, then it's understated by 2, then at 100kph it's understated by 3, then at 110kph it's understated by 4. The car is booked into the dealer this week to try and remedy the understating under warranty. I am ok with overstating the speed, because that is the norm with newer cars ... but understating is an annoyance that can lead to traffic tickets. I'd be grateful if someone smarter than me on the forum could explain why speedo disparity only start at a certain speed, and why do the differences increase incrementally as the vehicle speed increases.

Hi GL, I've viewed your posts over a long time, and I may be wrong, but I can't recall where you have been too critical of your vehicle. Maybe due to the various steering mods you have done, you have overcome the sort of complaints that some owners on the forum have of the Legacy's handling ..... or maybe you didn't have too many complaints to begin with, and all your steering mods were just "hobby related." The reason I ask is because of your comment "I'll have her til she dies" and I would like to hear if you make that statement just because you have "modded" your car to the level to enable you to say that .... or would you have still said that if you had left it as stock standard. I ask this as a satisfied 3.6 owner "non modder" who often thinks about also making mine "a lifer." I could afford a new vehicle in a couple of years, but I sometimes wonder why bother if the current one has everything I want. I'd be interested in your thoughts.

The answer is so simple. Just say ... "Blues" then "BB King" then never change anything ever again

Thanks ... looks interesting; providing it does the job ..... I'll research this product. For some reason I couldn't view the link you provided, but I came across this one (hopefully it's not the same as yours)

NO !!!!! Forget the bloody Beatles, just add MORE BLUES

I gotta say that I find this hard to believe.

During my conversation with Subaru Australia I actually mentioned that the line in question was yellow, and they said the color should not be a problem and that Eyesight would operate regardless of colors. They did mention the usual things that are listed in the manual that could cause problems, but line colors was not amongst these.