Scooby2.5

Rusty

I really did want to get the factory look to this whole thing. Since I was able to get the console pocket used, and I saw the Impreza wiring kit, I decided to do it this way. Really the most expensive thing was the impreza kit. All in all I probably spent about 20 bucks more than leggtnut.

With the way I did mine the steering wheel controls will still work, although I do not have them so that wasn't my point.

I just wanted it to look factory, and I used Subaru bucks for the whole thing.

If this didnt work I was going to do what leggtnut did.

By the way leggtnut when you get a chance do a write up of your build, like you stated you would in your parts list post. Thanks

Ok guys here is the procedure to make the Impreza AUX in kit work in the 2005-2006 legacy with the 2007- UP Radio.

Parts List: Prices from Fred Beans Subaru

86257xa10a Legacy AUX Module 2007 - 2008 $15.60

92174ag05a Center console - Pocket 2007 $23.08

H6210FG000 Impreza AUX JACK KIT $60.54

First you have to slide the radio out and unplug the I85 Connector.

Next take the cable from the IMPREZA Aux in kit and remove the connector off the end that would normally plug into the radio. I had a time with this and ended up cutting the connector off but preserving the pins. I could not get the pins to pop out as some have done.

Looking at the I85 connector this is the Pin numbering. (view looking at the rear of the car's i85 harness, with the wires pointing towards you):

4 3 2 1

8 7 6 5

Place each of the pins from the Impreza cable into the I85 connector as follows Pins 1,2,5 will be easy because there is nothing in there. Pin 6 needs to be removed from the I85 connector.

(note: I could not get pin 6 out of my I85 harness so I spliced the brown wire to the white wire in slot 6 of the i85 connector using a quick connect. (place two wires in the connector, take pliers and smash the spade down and then close the latch)

Pin 1 - audio left (white wire)

Pin 2 - audio right (red wire)

Pin 5 - Ground (black wire)

Pin 6 - Aux enable (brown wire) (Splice brown wire to White wire in slot 6 if you cannot remove the pin)

Now you need to remove the console…

To do this you pull the leather boot off the side of the console/brake handle. Just pull up on this, it just snaps on. You just need it disconnected from the console not off the parking brake handle.

Remove felt lining from the console pocket and remove two screws.

Grab console under passenger side and drivers side where you removed the leather parking brake boot and PULL straight up. This will unclip the front half of the console.

Now tip the console up toward the rear seat and unplug the big white connector near the back of the console.

Take the console into the house or somewhere it will not get scratched.

On the back of the console above the rear cup holder remove the small cover. It just clips on. When this is removed, remove the screw thats under there, its one of the screws that holds the existing console pocket.

Now unclip from the inside of the console the rear cup holder and take it out. It also just snaps in.

Remove the metal bracket on the bottom of the Console pocket. Remove the 5 screws holding the console pocket into the console and take the pocket out.

Place the new pocket into the console, put the screw in the back by the cupholder in, snap the cupholder back in, put the 5 screws in that hold the pocket to the console, and mount the metal bracket to the new pocket (note: you will use one less screw on the metal bracket because of the space for the AUX module).

You will need to take the Legacy Aux module apart and remove the circuit board. You will need to take the Impreza Aux module apart and remove the circuit board.

You will then need to trim the Impreza Aux Module board to the width of the Legacy board. It comes out to be approx. 10cm each side. I used a dremel. Be very careful as you want this to fit tight in the LEGACY Aux module housing. Make sure you line up the 1/8 inch jack on each board before you mark and cut the board. You have to make sure the 1/8 inch plug is centered to fit into the Legacy housing.

Once you have it trimmed put the newly trimmed Impreza circuit board into the Legacy Aux module housing. The Impreza board is a bit shorter from the cable connector to the input plug but if you trimmed it to a tight fit it should be fine.

After this snap the newly created Legacy Aux module into the the new Console pocket.

Now take the console back to the car and install in reverse order. I found it easiest to set the console on the hump in the rear of the car, plug the connectors in and then tilt it down toward the front.

Run the wire from the radio along the edge of the shifter and plug it into the Aux Module now mounted into your new console pocket.

Plug the console connector back in, tilt the console back down, and snap the console back down in the front. Reinstall the two screws that would be under the felt, these attach the console pocket to the floor.

Trim the felt so it will fit into the new console pocket.

Plug your IPOD into the new Aux jack, hit Aux on the Radio and ENJOY!

I am sure there are easier ways to do this and cheaper, but it looks FACTORY when you are done!!

OK, guys Bad news. It seems the pin out on the legacy AUX module is different than the pin out on the Impreza AUX module.

So I took both modules apart and what I am going to do is cut the IMPREZA circuit board to the width of the LEGACY circuit board.

Then I will slide the IMPREZA board into the LEGACY AUX mod housing.

When you purchase the impreza kit and if you already have the legacy AUX in module, PLEASE try to see if it works without using the impreza board FIRST before cutting to make sure I am correct.

I think deerkiller had the best idea, or SVX. Find the pins for the I85 connector and make your own cable and just drill a hole in your existing console storage pocket for a AUX in plug!

Ok Update....

Found the problem... it is the AUX input module for the LEGACY that is not working.

If I plug the AUX input module from the IMPREZA kit, it works fine.

I am taking them apart to see if they are wired the same. If they are not then what I am going to do is hacksaw the wider IMPREZA circuit board to fit in the LEGACY Aux input module housing and it should be good to go.

Ill keep you posted.

I ended up just splicing into the exiting wire (pin 6) and now it works.

Only problem I have now is I cannot get the left channel to work Ill tear into it tomorrow and see what is going on. I know its not the IPOD or the cable as I tested them on a different radio input.

Well I got the AUX IN Console Pocket installed in the console, wired it to the back of the radio, plugged all pins into the I85 connector with one EXCEPTION......

I cannot get pin 6 extracted from the connector to install the AUX enable wire.

I have tried everything to get it out. I may have to splice it.

Ill let you know what happens....

That's great news, Greg.

 

You will need to extract the pins from that new Impreza cable. Your car's i85 plug has the wire at pin 8 that you need to keep (for display dimming control). Plus I'm fairly sure the Impreza harness' shell is not compatible with the Legacy radio's "i85" socket.

 

Reminder — the i85 plug is the one with the white plastic guard/lock in the rear.

 

If your car has steering wheel controls (or at least, if the harness has the wires for them), then your i85 will also have wires at pins 3 and 7.

 

And finally, if your car has (or was wired for) the factory subwoofer in the rear, your i85 will have pins 4 and 6. As blue dragon wrote, only pin 6 conflicts with the new radio's Aux wires, but you should go ahead and remove both pins 4 and 6 from your i85 plug, so you don't have extraneous wires plugging into the new radio.

 

[i looked back and found your post where you say you have the under seat type of sub, so your i85 shouldn't have any wires at pins 4 and 6. But I'll leave these notes for anyone else who does this mod]

 

Pin numbering (view looking at the rear of the car's i85 harness, with the wires pointing towards you):

4 3 2 1

8 7 6 5

(which is the same orientation looking at the pins on the radio's socket)

Here is what I think we will have to do on the Radio End of the cable.

I wonder how he was able to get the pins out of the white connector. I have messed with a lot of these but this one seems different.

Maybe Ill ask blue dragon..... Stay Tuned. Probably wont be until middle of next week until I can do this. Leaving on a vacation trip.

I've confrmed that the '08 Impreza aux-in kit does work since the pins are the same size. You need to release the pins from the white connector on the Aux-in harness, and move them over to the I-85 connector. On an '05 Legacy or outback, pins 1, 2, and 5 are empty on the I-85 connector, so you will only need to remove pin 6 from the I-85 connector so that you can install the pin from the aux in harness

 

Pin 1 - audio left (white wire)

Pin 2 - audio right (red wire)

Pin 5 - Ground (black wire)

Pin 6 - Aux enable (brown wire)

 

Those are the colours of the wires in the Aux-in kit harness, and the corresponding pins that you need to move them to on the I-85 connector. This allows you to have aux-in and still retain the steering wheel audio controls

WHOOHOOOO, THE CABLE PLUGS RIGHT INTO THE LEGACY AUX MODULE... The picture was CORRECT! See Update on this in post 419!!

H6210FG000 AUX JACK KIT

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/5180/2008imprezaarmrestauxin.th.jpg

Next week Ill tear into my car and see if it works... I am pretty sure it will, so now I need to just plug it into the radio to see what happens.

It looks like from this pic that it would plug right into one of the black connectors on the back of the radio.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/zmarko/IMAG0043.jpg

Here is a pic of it plugged in, and showing that it is plenty long enough. Also in the pic is the other end that should go to the radio.

We may have to pull the pins out of the white connector and stick them into an existing cable if there is no slot.

http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/45266/2121607380074087040S600x600Q85.jpg

I dont use WMA files but its nice to know I can if some idiot has them

I listen to alot of talk radio etc and with the podcasts on the ipod, i love it. I can download what I want and listen on my time.

We will get this working even if we have to make our own cables!

Its a good thing for sure. I am so glad, to have a factory fit and finish, radio, that has Windows mobile, mpeg and satelitte radio, and hopefully soon AUX in for my ipod touch. Might add some better speakers some day but not at this time.

For gosh sakes all this should have already been in an 05 vehicle IMHO. With that said, I am really glad I did this conversion, although painful at times (both money (mostly subie bucks) and modifications) it has been worth it.

I drive about 30000 miles per year, the 2005 suits me just fine and I do not plan on getting rid of it anytime soon. Even with 103000 on the odometer. When it needs a motor it is getting one.

Soon it will be getting an AVO380 turbo swap (have all parts just waiting on housing) and a tune for E85.

This really had been a great car, first import I have ever owned. AWD, wagon to haul my x-ray tools, great power, good gas milage, and very reliable. Its the perfect cross between my Jeep Cherokee and my 1993 Cobra Mustang!

^where did you find those second two numbers?

Jeremy Sassaman has been looking for the harness but couldnt seem to find it.

maybe if we give him the kit number he can find just the cable.

By the way thanks for helping out on this SVXdc, I see you have been much involved with this on other forums.

^Trying to get it as factory as possible. Subie bucks come in handy

Also this cable would be long enough because on the 08 impreza it looks as though its in the console as well.

It looks like the 08 Impreza connector on the cable will plug right into our legacy aux box, when looking at the install instructions.

Free Publications > Accessory Installation Guides". The document is "2008 AUX Terminal Input Cable - Impreza (08M+) (H6210FG000)" (a PDF file).

OK guys here is what I think you will need to install the AUX in on a 2005 that doesnt have it:

For the wiring you will need to purchase the 08 impreza kit H6210FG000

You will NOT be able to mount the Aux box from the 08 impreza kit in the console so you will need the factory console pieces from an 07.

pocket- 92174ag05a

wiring harness from pocket to plug 81870ag10a I dont think we need this but I will verify**** see picture below

aux pod 86257xa10a

Prices from Fred Beans at www.5-starperformance.com

Part Number: 86257xa10a Electrical - Entertainment system components - Terminal Terminal 2007 - 2008 $15.60

Part Number: 92174ag05a Center console - Pocket Pocket - 2007 2007 $23.08

Part Number: H6210FG000 AUX JACK KIT $60.54

Here is the 07 pieces i purchased:

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd71/alaskajoel/DSC08028.jpg

This wiring harness 81870ag10a is seen in the picture below with the white sticker on it. It adapts the back of the AUX in to the bigger white connector in this pic: I do not think we need this

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd71/alaskajoel/DSC08030.jpg

The impreza harness should plug right into the back of the Factory 07 aux box like in this pic:

http://inlinethumb21.webshots.com/45588/2659285850074087040S600x600Q85.jpg

I will be doing this in the next few weeks, Ill post if I am correct and this works.

Greg

Guess I answered my own question. Maybe Ill just buy this kit (H6210FG000) and modify the wiring for my setup. Looks like you posted about this on NASIOC.

I will be ordering this to see how it works guys.

SVXdc wrote on NASIOC

"As austinpike wrote, Tim-M's harness is one solution. It plugs into the rear of the HU and provides either individual wires or a 3.5mm stereo plug. View the entire thread and scroll down to post #84 for pictures.

Subaru does sell an interconnect cable along with an aux pod, intended to be installed in the center console of some 2008s. If you're installing the aux pod where the ashtray would be, it may still fit. You'll just have a lot of extra cable, since this one is long enough to reach down the transmission hump past the gearshift.

The Subaru part number is H6210FG000. Price is about $62 plus shipping from the online Subaru parts places (e.g., SubaruParts.com), and probably $75 at your dealer.

You might try calling Subaru of America directly to see if they can tell you a part number for just the cable. If it's available it should cost a bit less. However, Subaru may not package and sell it separately.

I found the part number for the kit in the installation guide on Subaru's web site. Under "Free Publications > Accessory Installation Guides". The document is "2008 AUX Terminal Input Cable - Impreza (08M+) (H6210FG000)" (a PDF file).

On some models, the aux interconnect cable merges into a larger harness tied into the rest of the car. That's probably why the seller did not include it, and why the dealer may say it's not available separately. But on some 2007s it really is a separate cable, similar to what's shown in that installation guide."

I've confrmed that the '08 Impreza aux-in kit does work since the pins are the same size. You need to release the pins from the white connector on the Aux-in harness, and move them over to the I-85 connector. On an '05 Legacy or outback, pins 1, 2, and 5 are empty on the I-85 connector, so you will only need to remove pin 6 from the I-85 connector so that you can install the pin from the aux in harness

 

Pin 1 - audio left (white wire)

Pin 2 - audio right (red wire)

Pin 5 - Ground (black wire)

Pin 6 - Aux enable (brown wire)

 

Those are the colours of the wires in the Aux-in kit harness, and the corresponding pins that you need to move them to on the I-85 connector. This allows you to have aux-in and still retain the steering wheel audio controls

Here are the connectors on the stock AUX in, in the console on the legacy.

Radio Aux In album:

Here is a link if you want them bigger http://www.webshots.com/user/gregnauman

This is the Connector on the back of the Aux in

http://inlinethumb21.webshots.com/45588/2659285850074087040S600x600Q85.jpg

This is the cable that plugs into the BACK of the aux in above picture:

http://inlinethumb36.webshots.com/34275/2153778440074087040S600x600Q85.jpg

This is the other end of this aux in cable, and as you can see it also splices over to the Power outlet

http://inlinethumb27.webshots.com/45402/2758616490074087040S600x600Q85.jpg

Here is the back of the 08 radio and I think it is the same as the 07

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/zmarko/IMAG0043.jpg

wonder if this would work somehow?

2008 AUX Terminal Input Cable - Impreza (08M+) (H6210FG000)

Basically, what I have is the 2007 radio installed in a 2005 outback xt. I also installed the Sirius kit.

Now I have the factory AUX console insert and just need a cable to go from the factory console insert to the radio.

SVX if you could help us out with this, you would be our hero. Im a electronics guy but just dont have the time to devote to FINDING all the pins, wiring etc.

Isnt there some good enough pictures of the I85 connector in this thread or at least the NASIOC threads?

It would be nice if we could get the factory style plugs for both the Aux in I show in the above picture and the back of the radio.

Is this possible?

If someone can send me clear, close-up pictures of connector "i85" (the 8-pin connector that plugs into the back of the radio), I'll see if I can track down the pins (and possibly the shell, too).

 

No cell phone pics, please Use a camera that you can set to "macro" (close-focus, might show a "flower" icon for this mode).

 

I'd like to see every side. For the side that plugs into the radio, hold a metric ruler (with millimeters) next to it.

 

While you're at it, pics of the other 8-pin connector would be nice too.

 

First person who can do that I'll send a set of pins to (if/when I find them), or a pair of my 14-pin forward/reverse harnesses (if you can't wait).

 

 

I posted links to the pin-out back in post #70 (and the whole list in post #118). But here's the link again: Pin-out for the aux socket on 2007 radios.

 

Connector C8 (under the Aux jack) is different — it has 6 pins.

If the harness under that is a 4pin just like the i85 connector, then you could just try using 4 CDRom cables.

^The connector is in the pic

Ive already got this so all I need is the pinout, and wiring:

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd71/alaskajoel/DSC08028.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd71/alaskajoel/DSC08030.jpg

If you could give us the place to get the pins, what guage wire you used and tell us where it needs to go from the white connector in the cubby to the radio connector I am sure I can make one.

I dont want or need steering wheel controls, I just want the aux in from the cubby.

Of course if you want to make one for me Id buy it if the quality of work was bar none. Heatshrink and the whole nine yards. I work in X-ray, electronics degree, so I could do this, just not wanting to spend the time to find all the pins and such.

One for sale

http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110740