JoeInOregon

Well... I bought a used APV3 right after I started this thread, before I learned Cobb had pulled the stage 2 maps from their website. I figured no problem, the AP will have the stage 2 maps on it. Well, it doesn't. Rather than start the string of obscenities on the tip of my tongue...

 

Can anyone please please please send me the stage 2 maps? Please PM, thank you.

is a 2005 not sure what year yours is.

Anyone know how to back up the maps from the AP

I would be rather scared to plug it into cob software right now

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Pre face lift RPB sedans easily best legacy there is

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I got some OEM top feed TGV's lol

There is always those old school 02 sensor spacers lol.

Im thinking the best option is for anyone above a basic stage two is to sell their accesport (specially ones that have stage 2 loaded)

Sell your own tvg's if you have them.

Bite the built and go link or mega squirt and never worry about this BS again

Really would like a refund for my dam flex kit though.

Flex fuel is the real breaking point, at least until someone starts tuning it in open source

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Hey, all, this news slammed me today. I just bought the latest V3 AP on April 5, and they didn't say jack squat about this. Moreover, the shop I've worked with for years -- trying not to name them here because of their relationship to Cobb -- has just completed a 2-month project on my 05 wagon.

 

I took the car in February for a JDM TD04HLA twinscroll swap with AVO intercooler, downpipe and EBCS. As they got into the swap, however, the 169k motor needed replacing. I acquired an OEM shortblock and a set of new B25 head castings off these great forums. The shop finally started it yesterday and are sorting out the car for break-in tune, as this news came in.

 

Their suggestion today is to use the car's older AP for break-in tune, and acquire an EcuTek for the subsequent tune. Try to return this paperweight V3...

 

 

"EcuTek is our solution so it's not a big deal, only sad part is the fact they they dropped this bombshell on us without any notices... EcuTek has the appropriate ROMS, open source is a hijacked version of EcuTek"

 

 

I want to add, the aspects of my swap affected by this are (1) the JDM intake which is TGV-less, and (2) the JDM twinscroll exhaust which has no EGR sensor in the up-pipe. They're among the "toggled" items regarding exhaust/emissions.

 

 

I'm sure it was a tough decision for Cobb, but geez, why can't the tuning of an automobile be left to the owner of the automobile?

It's pony up for link or go else where.

Tough decision there is a reputable remote tuner that will do ECU tek

750 for cable and license

550 for Tune

700 for their compatible flex fuel kit

Or

1250 for the link

Think they can make Cobb flex fuel kit work but will have to pay shop rate for the wiring and trouble shooting so big ?

750 for the tune

Doubt anyone will buy my accesport now or the intake and box , I guess I mild build it would be ok.

Third option, put the stock fueling and turbo back on, flash stage two OTS tune

Sell car and turbo , injectors, FPR, damper , and tgv and buy Porsche

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Is there a reason nobody is talking about Tactrix / Romraider? Did I miss something? I get that a standalone is probably a better option for a race car but for the other 99.9% of us...

 

I got real tired of SCT's stranglehold on Ford tuning and was super pumped when I found out the Subaru didn't require another stupid tuning device that costs as much as a laptop and ends up collecting dust 363 days a year.

So even though us legacy and older sti and WRX guys have some open source option it's a bigger problem than just us.

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Is there a reason nobody is talking about Tactrix / Romraider? Did I miss something? I get that a standalone is probably a better option for a race car but for the other 99.9% of us...

 

I got real tired of SCT's stranglehold on Ford tuning and was super pumped when I found out the Subaru didn't require another stupid tuning device that costs as much as a laptop and ends up collecting dust 363 days a year.

Most of the best tuners also went to Cobb platform around the same time.

ECUtek is still an option and used by

Delicious Tuning

I spoke with them yesterday , will cost you over 700 with the cable and ECU license, and the Cobb flex fuel kit is not compatible.

They however were super responsive and helpful.

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What did you have to remove to get to the pan rear bolts , I cant for the life of me see a way to get to those back bolts without removing a pile of stuff.

Also pro tip , get a hair dryer out and heat that bad boy up along the sealing edge before you give it a pry

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Link doesn’t make anything specially for the LGT but rather WRX/STI. We will need to find similarities in ecu pin outs to use link ecu.

 

Link is more expensive but no more tricking the ecu. I hate doing it with my STI and no more emissions or OBDII things. Just things that work. Stand-alone require the tuner to make the car idle and such. I believe there are auto learn features but it’ll be a solid alternative. There are other types of stand-alone that replace the ECU rather than piggy backing onto and needing to trick the ecu to do what we want with it.

 

My LGT has a IAG block with LGT heads with upgraded injectors and turbo. Many tuners have tried but the idle isn’t right and when the car hasn’t ran for a little while it’s gets wonky. Totally the AP3 tune. Even on OS I’ve had similar issues.

I'm guessing with these changes the pin out compatibility and some work flows for getting it running correctly will be available very soon.

Part of me is considering just putting stock turbo and injectors and turbo back on , throwing a ap staged canned tune on it and selling it and buying the boxster I have been eyeing.

Getting kinda frustrated.

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The only upside to this is the link is a much better platform and requires actual tuning ability.

These dealers will not just be able to load some map they have used 1000 times tweak one or two things and call it a pro tune.

You will be able to tell who actually know what they are doing by the ones who supports and tuned stand alone like link and haltech

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Cobb has disabled their phone tech support due to all the phone calls lol

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I can't even look at my Cobb shift knob now without throwing shit , that has to go also

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You all are killing me here, I have all this stuff plus tons more on my car and I am getting tuned with via AP3 with no problems for my new setup, I know people who are getting tuned as we speak with no issues.

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You all are killing me here, I have all this stuff plus tons more on my car and I am getting tuned with via AP3 with no problems for my new setup, I know people who are getting tuned as we speak with no issues.

Be warned link ECU is about 1k Cobb is 600 save yourself the trouble now

Just got off the phone with a very reputable dealer/tuner.

Link ECU is the only way to go if you want flex fuel or any messing with emissions features.

To make it worse all the maps in the future will be carb compliant and subject to epa standards and testing.

Expect the tunes themselves aside from emissions testing and control to be very vanilla.

Cobb is dead

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Local shop moving to link ECU for anything but the blandest of tunes I'm told.

Also looking like my flex fuel kit is a ******* paper weight

I will have an unmarried Cobb v3 access port and intake and box for sale if anyone is interested.

Like brand new

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If you decide to switch over to open source, I have a patched ROM that'll work for your car that supports flex fuel.

 

edit: glory be to solidxsnake for making this happen a while back. his handywork, i'm just the beneficiary.

Need a custom tune, so disappointing was looking forward to Dyno tune at local shop

We need a post of current open source tuners I guesse

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O great almost finished with by build and it's a ******* paper weight now, they just sold be there flex kit they no longer support less than 6 months ago , this is unbelievable

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Yea I'm familiar with the relearn, I did 2 times already just to see if it would help in any way possible but it comes back to the same issues

What I'm pretty sure of is if I'm my 177k mile stock car tolerated the lighter single mass flywheel your car should as well.

I also didn't mention but I ran the same setup on bone stock no tune before I flashed and didn't have any issue either

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The symptoms in regards to stallling and air fuel chasing while not under load, are exactly what my car does after a battery disconnect and needed a throttle body relearn.

 

No idea if this is at all related to your issue but what you are describing sounds awfully familiar

 

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Stage one OTS tune

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The symptoms in regards to stallling and air fuel chasing while not under load, are exactly what my car does after a battery disconnect and needed a throttle body relearn.

No idea if this is at all related to your issue but what you are describing sounds awfully familiar

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Thanks everyone for the help. It's been fine so far, but i know it's sucking hot air some. Just want it cooler.

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FWIW, my stock blown shocks and stock worn out springs were less comfy than my Koni and H&R spring combo. I think anybody with blown shocks would be happy with anything new as an upgrade!

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525 bucks in cost me for all new OEM spec kyb struts, front and rear mounts, and the saggy but spacers.

Koni seems to be the choice for most but you need to cut up your old struts and the cost is significantly higher

Almost no one goes with the OEM replacement not really sure why as I have read more than one person that isn't a fan of the konis

If you really don't want any lowering and it isn't a track car or has a need for stiffer ride I don't see the point of anything but OEM.

Seems more like a WRX thing trying to stiffen it up. That is what is great about the leggy, WRX power and nice smooth ride.

I fear nor really feel most speed bumps , pot holes or dirt and gravel roads

I went thru this whole debate my self and am happy I went the direction I did

Just my two cents

Including some pics , stock 177k Mile springs with new struts and mounts, 1/2 Saggy butt spacers, and one inch wheel spacers

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For got mention I also have 1/2 Saggy butt spacers

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I did stock springs and new kyb OEM replacement struts and mounts

If you are coming from worn struts it's a huge difference and ride height is perfect for Subaru snow and dirt road shananagins

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Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh I wish I had the funds for this at the moment.

Free bump

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