VXCL Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 from looking at the pad its almost at least 1/2" thick. i def dont want to raise the car up in the rear by that much and how much is that going to effect preload? im thinking of picking up a set of sti pinks and running the prova springs up front and pinks in the rear. or should i jut try the extra pad? i would like to raise the rear up about 10mm current setup jdm spec b rev a bilsteins sedan provas oem spec b wheels and tires (which accounts for wheel gap issue due to larger overall diameter vs the oe 17s and 215/45s) what you think? MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 I'd say try the pads. Cheaper than new springs! They will compress a bit over time cause they're rubber. When I swapped my shocks I was pretty shocked at how much they had compressed (to almost 1/2 their height). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobE Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 i got a noob question: what is this pad you speak of? http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 I'd say try the pads. Cheaper than new springs! They will compress a bit over time cause they're rubber. When I swapped my shocks I was pretty shocked at how much they had compressed (to almost 1/2 their height). really it compresses? i mean the one thats on there now is def not compressed. im also scared about how secure it is. with one its held in place by both the force of the spring and the top hat it slides into, but adding another above it will rely soley on the force of the spring and adj preload. my springs are already rated at 6.7kg so i dont think i want any preload. i dont know. pinks will be another $250 at least so not sure. ill prob just leave it for now, but i def would like to change it. also i like the 215/45 size sidewall so going 225/40s to increase the gap doesnt sit well with me. i dont want a thinner sidewall then what i have now so. i dont know. trying to come up with a solution. false and for robe the the springs all have a rubber seat on the top hats so adding another would increase the over length of the shock and raise the car. truth upon installation i realized that the extra pad increases preload on the rear spring which keeps it from compressing as much as it would thereby raising the car. the position of the top mount never changes. duh!! anyways figured i would correct my wrong statements MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 The spring seat has a steel washer inbedded in it (at least the JDM one that I used did). Cut that steel out and it will only raise your rear by about 10mm. It will also allow the rear spring to get a little bit of the lip on the bottom of the shock that holds it in place. I hope that makes sense. Worked very well for me. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 from looking at the pad its almost at least 1/2" thick. i def dont want to raise the car up in the rear by that much... i would like to raise the rear up about 10mm I'm no mathematical genius here, but you do realize that the difference between 1/2 inch and 10mm is only 2.5mm, right? - You won't be able to pick that up visually from 5 feet away. I say just go for the double spring perch; I don't think it's as big of a lift as you think it will be. I've been running doubled up on my iON's for a year and a half now and am very happy with the look and ride. Seek first to understand, then to be understood. In other words: SEARCH before you post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 I'm no mathematical genius here, but you do realize that the difference between 1/2 inch and 10mm is only 2.5mm, right? - You won't be able to pick that up visually from 5 feet away. I say just go for the double spring perch; I don't think it's as big of a lift as you think it will be. I've been running doubled up on my iON's for a year and a half now and am very happy with the look and ride. i was estimating. the pad actually looks thicker then .5" and 10mm is about the max i want to go up. ill def look into this when i replace the one top hat i stupidly snapped the bolt off of. also we are all talking about the pad up top right? becuase i haven't seen anything on the bottom other then the spring perch itself. MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Stacking another pad on top of both rear springs netted me a 5/8" rise in back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted May 8, 2007 Author Share Posted May 8, 2007 The spring seat has a steel washer inbedded in it (at least the JDM one that I used did). Cut that steel out and it will only raise your rear by about 10mm. It will also allow the rear spring to get a little bit of the lip on the bottom of the shock that holds it in place. I hope that makes sense. Worked very well for me. i assume the usdm spec b is running the same pad then? i know the top hats for it are jdm spec for the fronts MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Stacking another pad on top of both rear springs netted me a 5/8" rise in back. Did you let it break in before you measured it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Did you let it break in before you measured it?I just measured the increase in total thickness of two pads nested together vs a single one. Probably a little compression of the pair after settling so final rise somewhere between 1/2" and 5/8". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted July 4, 2007 Author Share Posted July 4, 2007 finally got around to adding another pad. at first i thought how the hell is this going to work since the overall length of the shock is the same and then i remembered the whole spring aspect and by adding preload the spring wont compress as much and therefore raise the car anyways worked out great and now i have a 1 finger gap all around. thanks for all the help peace MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobE Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 ^^^^ http://newenglandsubarus.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted July 5, 2007 Author Share Posted July 5, 2007 b4 adding rear pad http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1489/img2257qz7.jpg doesnt look too much different from that as you cant tell the rear is slightly tucked in that pic. sorry thats all i have. need to wash the car and finally take some pics of the final setup. it rides even better then it looks MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsme Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 i got a noob question: what is this pad you speak of? I have my stock struts off I will take a picture when I get home if no one else does. Racer X FMIC for '05-'09 LGTs, '08+ WRX and '10+ LGT,'14+ FXT, and '15+ WRX TMIC Racerxengineering.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted July 29, 2007 Author Share Posted July 29, 2007 final pics JDM Spec B Rev A Bilsteins -Prova Sedan Springs -double rear spring pads -Spec B 18's with RE50's (1 finger gap all around) http://mywebpages.comcast.net/vxcl/legacy/provas/IMG_1118.jpg http://mywebpages.comcast.net/vxcl/legacy/provas/IMG_1102.jpg http://mywebpages.comcast.net/vxcl/legacy/provas/IMG_1106.jpg http://mywebpages.comcast.net/vxcl/legacy/provas/IMG_1094.jpg http://mywebpages.comcast.net/vxcl/legacy/provas/IMG_1111.jpg http://mywebpages.comcast.net/vxcl/legacy/provas/IMG_1100.jpg http://mywebpages.comcast.net/vxcl/legacy/provas/IMG_9039.jpg Ride is 10000x better then stock. It no longer feels like I'm crashing into a brick wall everytime I hit a bump. Car is solid and composed especially on highway. Highly recommend to anyone. Not a single passenger (from the girl to my grandparents!) has complained about ride quality Perfect combo. MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperhawkLGT Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Bump for more pics of anyone with 2 rear spring seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b380/TRS60586/LGT%20Jul%202007/resized/DSCN01722.jpg more Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperhawkLGT Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Nice! What springs, front and rear lips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 Tein H-Tech springs Tokico HTS shocks & struts JDM/Spec B front topmounts 2x rear spring pads STi front lip w/STi front lip skirt JDM rear lip spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperhawkLGT Posted July 29, 2007 Share Posted July 29, 2007 So how do you like the ride, do you have alot of bumps/potholes/shitty streets like we do In ma? How much are the Tokicos? Oh and front lip skirt??? Thanks mang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scooter Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Bump for more pics of anyone with 2 rear spring seats. Here you go; stock struts w/ iON springs & double rear spring perch = perfect stance! Seek first to understand, then to be understood. In other words: SEARCH before you post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 So how do you like the ride, do you have alot of bumps/potholes/shitty streets like we do In ma? How much are the Tokicos? Oh and front lip skirt??? Thanks mang.I'm very happy with the ride, both daily driving and the occasional HPDE at the track. Some roads can get pretty bombed-out during a typical winter and city streets can be bad any time. The nice thing about the Tokico HTS set is that they are easily adjustable so you can experiment and match them to the springs you're using and the roads you'll be driving. FastWRX.com has them for $649. The add-on STi lip skirt is ~$100 at JapanParts.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Tein H-Tech springs Tokico HTS shocks & struts JDM/Spec B front topmounts 2x rear spring pads STi front lip w/STi front lip skirt JDM rear lip spoiler why do you need 2x spring pads? i had H-Tech's and car was level. bosco Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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