K2e2vin Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 I don't know how Canada's tax works; but would ordering from another country(USA) still have a sales tax and is there an tariff for items being shipped to USA? Thank you very much for the information, ElanS2! Alfred_Buchi, if you start a G-B you can go ahead and put me down! All I know is I just need it by winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2e2vin Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 I got these for my wagon last fall. Love them, no idea about the manufacturer. I got them as a gift, and I know my dad paid out the nose for them- after all was said and done it was about $300. Why the USDM bars are so lame compared to the CDM, we shall never know. I use a Thule Universal ski rack and it fits just fine. Did your dad go to(or lives in) Canada to get them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElanS2 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Hello K2e2vin, The Canadian sales taxes I referred to are what is known as consumption taxes. They get passed on to the end purchaser. There are two of them: one federal applied in all provinces, and the other provincial (state). The provincial tax varies from 0 in Alberta to 9.5% in Quebec. In Quebec they add up to 15%. A purchaser can avoid paying them if the item purchased is for resale in one manner or another, and if he is registered federally and provincially. As you suspect they do not apply to items "exported" however in this case the "exporter" is going to have to jump through hoops, forms and other paperwork that the normal Subi dealer never encounters in order to not charge the taxes. Sometimes the purchaser, from outside Canada, can recuperate the taxes already paid by filing a claim somewhere, however you do have to have complete documentation, and I do not know how that is done. Tariffs concern the importing country so you will have to sort that out on your end. There is a free trade agreement between the US and Can as well as free trade in automobile stuff between the countries. In addition this product must be made in the US so I doubt if any tariff applies. The problem is not the tariff, it is the handling of the item. In Canada I can get stuck with a fee for opening a file even when no tariff is charged. This filing or handling fee ranges from 5$ if it is through Canada Post to infinity if it is through your friendly UPS "service". Shipping by UPS is prohibitive as they charge fees on fees to suck everything they can out of your pockets. They have your stuff so you have to pay up if you want it. I hate UPS. I see no reason for them to treat you differently from me. They will screw you. Have a good day! Cheers Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2e2vin Posted September 5, 2012 Author Share Posted September 5, 2012 Just wondering, anyone else look into these? I think I'm going to go ahead and try to order a set the week after next. I'm just curious if anyone else has ordered from Canada; looks like a lot of work for the dealership. I was hoping someone with experience or know a shop that can help would chime in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Samson Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I ordered them from the Subaru dealership in Richmond, BC. It was rather expensive, and then UPS came after me for $35 more for brokerage fees after the fact. So, overall it is doable, but it would be better if you're close to the border to drive up, buy them, put them on your car and drive back. If you leave them in a box in the trunk, the CBP is going to want to charge you for bringing them back in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2e2vin Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 Crap, I live too far from the border. Do you mind letting us know how much you paid all together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElanS2 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Brock, Please do not say that you were not warned about UPS's prohibitive charges. Could you please let the readers know the dimensions and weight of the box so that they can do there own calculations. Your shipping was from Richmond ( Vancouver ) to Seattle, hard to get closer than that. Can you tell us what the costs for shipping was and what the "brokerage fees, handling etc " was. The shipping cost should not have been too bad considering the distance. Others would have to make an adjustment for their distance. The brokerage etc stuff should, IMHO, be the same whatever the distance. As I said in another post the postal service seems to have a easier approach to fees etc than does UPS. Perhaps that is why UPS makes money and the postal services don't. Take advantage of that situation while it lasts. Rod from Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Samson Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 I'm well aware of UPS's charges. I have no idea what the dims/weights of the box were- I got these about a year ago and they are long gone. Like I said in an earlier post, I received mine as a gift and didn't arrange shipping or anything. All I do know is that my dad said the dealership included all shipping charges and he covered them. It wasn't until UPS sent me to collections for about $35 that I found out it wasn't all covered. Being in transportation/logistics, I can wholeheartedly support your recommendation to use the national postal services to do cross-border shipping. You're much less likely to run into these surprise charges than using UPS or Fedex. Someone could have done fairly well about 4 or 5 years ago getting a lot of these canadian bars into the states and selling them here on the forums... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Samson Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Oh, and all together it was about $300-$320. I suspect you can do better if you haggle with the parts guys since fourth gen leggy's are starting to get 'old' (despite the fact that they look much nicer than the new ones ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElanS2 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Brock, It sounds like your Dad was hooked for list price ($240). A friendly parts man could have done the deal for $160 plus transport. I guess it's easier to get a deal face to face. In Aug Subi Canada had lots of stock. See post #17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2e2vin Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 Just a heads up. I've contacted Francois and it's $180 after tax. Currently waiting on what the shipping cost would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sab6300 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Ha this topic pops up once in a while. Here was the thread from last year when I was obsessed with getting them for my legacy wagon. I think my ride looks so much better with them installed, pics in the thread. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/roof-rack-systems-legacy-wagon-25336p13.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeylord Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 sab6300, that really does look killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2e2vin Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 So, no response. I guess it's a no-go. Any other ideas guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13fido13 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Are you guys looking for these bars? http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/hobbit13/TSCHypermeetShot2012.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/hobbit13/d33e459c.jpg Please note that this is on an 08 wagon. I don't know if the bars are the same for the earlier models. If you give me a VIN, I can go to my dealer in town and get part numbers for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2e2vin Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 I believe it's the same. The PN I was given is: sci306631 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElanS2 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Hello K2e2vin, The following is my estimate of shipping which I obtained from the Canada Post web site using the dimensions and weights that I had estimated and included in a previous posting: " just took my unit off the car. From the measurements that I took I estimate the shipping costs to be in the neighbourhood of 64.36$Can plus sales tax of 15%. The sales tax should be added to the 160$ selling price too. The shipping could be reduced by +/-20$ if it is by expedited parcel rather than express post. Both offer signature upon reception. From what I see neither offer tracking. When I get stuff from the US through the USPS tracking applies to the border but not within Canada. The reverse may be true when shipping to the US." If you are willing to trust me I offer to obtain the package and post it however I would like to receive payment first for the purchase and latter for the exact shipping. I will not add any $ for extras that are not real out of pocket expenses. In other words there will be nothing in it for me. The purchase price that you mention , $180, does it include 15% local taxes? If not that will have to be added. I can try and refine the shipping cost if you will tell me where it should be shipped to. Please note that I will not be responsible for any duties or administrative fees that may be imposed upon importing by your authorities, whoever they may be. If the chap in Sudbury offers to help you the shipping will probably be less as he is closer to the states than am I. Let me know if you think I can help you and good luck. I really like my bars!! Cheers Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElanS2 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Hello K2e2vin, I tried to send you a PM. Please let me know if it got to you. Cheers Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2e2vin Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 Thanks Rod, got your message and replied back! I will cover any duties. Yes, the $180 he quoted me was after tax was included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay-d Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Sweet! I'm going to get these as well from Francois. One question, I can't seem to find the thread, but what accessories will fit these bars? I'm looking for snowboard racks, one that will hold 4 snowboards.. does Thule make a universal fitment option for these aero bars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2e2vin Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 I'm not sure but I was planning on using the Thule Atlantis cargo box to hold 4-6 snowboards; it uses a clamping system that looks like it should work on those bars. Subaru Canada should have accessories that specifically fit these bars too* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13fido13 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Since I have been asked in pm about which accessories I use, here we go. This is for the 08 bars. I don't know if the 05-07 bars are different. I know that I do not have bars available from Thule, only Yakima this is not the case for the 05-07. I use the Thule Big Mouth bike carrier, and the Stacker Kayak carrier. The bike carrier uses square head bolts which I slide into my track and clip tight. The kayak carrier uses straps and bolts. I do not have adapters from Subaru, I have not found any that are made. I know that Subaru is now offering Thule accessories for the cars. I'm pretty sure I have the same Thule accessories that Subaru offers. Here are pictures of both: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/hobbit13/null-28.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/hobbit13/null-27.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/hobbit13/null-26.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/hobbit13/null-25.jpg http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/hobbit13/null-24.jpg Any questions PM me. I'll be glad to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Samson Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 SCI306631 is the part number you want. I have the Thule universal ski bars, and they fit great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2e2vin Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 Anyone have any luck? I'm still trying to get a set but still no luck. 13fido13, do you know if your dealer will ship to USA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13fido13 Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 I can't see why they wouldn't. I also have the ability to talk with dealers in the GTA area as well. Send me an address and the part number you are looking for, I'll see what I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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