Say hello to 2012 OTS maps!!!

[islandborn]

There does seem to be less immediate turbo feel with the Stage 1. Almost like they tuned it back to allow better control at low throttle on both 1st and 2nd gear. The car off the lot was much more touchy. This is the "relearning" - I learned how to drive the car with that quick pop then after going stage1, I'm having to put a bit more revs on shift point it seems like. HOWEVER, you stomp on it and you fly - the power is massively improved.

 

Funny, I think I actually now drive a bit more slower - no need to try to show I got all that power cause I know I can impress if need be.... hence why often you see all the hotshot cars cruising.... They know they can put a beating down if need be. While the Civics with the coffee can mufflers are screaming around. Like little-man's complex. Completely psychological.

[ripp3r]

I broached this question on the Cobb forums (http://www.cobbforums.com/forums/showthread.php?72654-2012-Maps-Throttle-Response) and here is Bill's reply:

 

When you install the AP (or reflash a map), the ECU's learned values are cleared. Drive-by-wire Subarus end up with a soft pedal response until the throttle system learns over a period of driving. This is perfectly normal. To those that notice this, I would tell them to give it about a week of driving and then see how the throttle repsonds.

Bill @ Cobb

Subaru ECU Specialist

[ziptiecloud]

Ok guys- firsthand experience from one day only:

 

I do experience a little turbo lag if you will before it picks up and goes.. and it's more than likely just the extra torque kicking in, but I do not feel a lack of throttle response from the start. I logged with the AVO panel filter in and out as well. Throttle response IS better with the filter in, but was hitting just above target so I went back to OEM for now to be safe.

 

I am completely "used" to the new feel of the car and there is no other way to put it than how Island described it (although he is on the 93). The car just simply feels like there was serious weight lifted off its shoulders.

[eckseleven]

I went to the 93 map today and briefly drove around (about 10 mins). Power deliver seems a bit smoother. It's hard to tell if the car really feels much quicker though. I saw a peak of 16.4 psi. With the 91 I saw a peak of about 15.5.

[ziptiecloud]

^I thought the same thing. I really think it's just deceptively fast.. gotta just wait till about 3 1/2 then punch it Interesting though- my peak w the panel was the same as your 93

[Salomonskier720]

 

 

[*] Cobb's website advertises that 2010/2011 LGTs running Stage 1 yields an improvement of 14%HP / 30%TQ. If your car measured 259 HP / 253 TQ at stock, then that would result in an improvement to about 295 HP / 328 TQ. The numbers they achieved were 264 HP / 316 TQ. So the TQ improvement is pretty close to what they estimate, but HP is negligibly higher to the point of writing off that part of the improvement. I understand that elevation, etc come into play with a car's performance, but did they give you any other explanation or commentary on why they didn't quite hit the advertised HP improvement, such as something changing with the 2012 models that is limiting them?

 

 

So I know this thread is a little old but I didn't notice that anyone specifically addressed why the HP and TQ increases were less than the 2010/2011 OTS Maps from Cobb. I know the TQ is pretty close but the HP improvements seem to be much lower than the 2010/2011 maps.

 

I just watched the video of the Red LGT at cobb doing the dyno and noticed that they were only using 92 octane, could this possibly be the reason?

 

I am completely clueless when it comes to this kind of stuff so sorry if this is a terrible question. Thanks ahead of time for the help!