Tripod Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Sorry I disagree. Stock vette running 109-110 bwahahahahaha!!!!! Maybe a C6 with the LS2 motor in it but NO WAY a C5 pulling those traps stock. Even several of the car rags have run low 13's @ 107-109 mph with stock C5 Corvettes. And they've even gotten the heavier and less aerodynamic Camaro SS's to run mid 13's @ 105-107 mph. As said before, some owners on good tracks can run stock C5 Corvettes at 12.9 @ 109+ mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 :lol: Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eles1 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I've owned an LT1, LS1, and a Lightning, all of which ran mid/low 13s at the track with minor bolt ons. I love my Legacy GT Wagon more than all of them, but there simply is no way that my stock GT would come close to hanging with any of them. Sure, the 1/8 mile might be close, and I might squeeze off a better 60' time, but after that the V8 HP/TQ will just run away from me. Check the tread title again.. he's at stage 1 in his Legacy. I think 1/8 mile or less would be extremely close. the LS1s (Camaro/ T/A) weigh 3700 pounds plus. Actually, it's more like 3400 lbs for the fourth gen V-8 F-bodies, even less for the "stripper" M6's. The weight advantage for a C5 vette is about 200 lbs, maybe a little better for an FRC... that's around .2 seconds in the 1/4 mile. But, as KTM mentioned, LS1 F-bodies typically average about 5-10 more rwhp than LS1 vettes. Vettes have greater rotating mass in their drivetrain due to the 18" wheels and IRS vs. the F-body's solid rear setup. LS1 F-bodies and LS1 vettes are surprisingly competitve in the 1/4... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 What kind of bolt ons on the Lightning? I lit an 03 lightning up a few weeks ago:) All he told me he had done is Exhaust (Borla) with free flow cats. I had him by at least 2 car lengths up to about 90:) He was coming on a little after 75-80. I am hoping after a few more small mods to be aound 13.5, so there is no-way that 03 was a 13 sec vehicle Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripod Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 :lol: Really? http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-1799.html Here's a guy with an auto convertible with only intake, exhaust and reprogram: http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-1206.html This guy just has an intake: http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-333.html Here's a Convertible with just an exhaust: http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-1808.html Here's a guy with just a K&N cone filter: http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-892.html Here's a bone stock: http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-4422.html And doubters should actually GO to a dragstrip and you'd see it for yourselves too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyr Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 What kind of bolt ons on the Lightning? I lit an 03 lightning up a few weeks ago:) All he told me he had done is Exhaust (Borla) with free flow cats. I had him by at least 2 car lengths up to about 90:) He was coming on a little after 75-80. I am hoping after a few more small mods to be aound 13.5, so there is no-way that 03 was a 13 sec vehicle Bone stock on my 2001 Lightning I ran a 13.96 at 101. My buddy's Lightning (also 2001) also ran 13.8s to 14.0s bone stock. After adding my bolt-ons (Diablo chip, 4 lb pulley, K&N - about $650 total) I ran a 13.26, 13.17, and 13.11 all at 104-105mph with 2.0ish 60' times (I know, I suck). I can easily believe that you beat him by a couple of car lengths if he only had an exhaust. From what I remember, the stock SVT exhaust on Lightnings was very well tuned to match the engine output, and most aftermarket cat-backs did not increase HP at all (some lost power due to back pressure reduction). The thing is, Lightnings are very easy/inexpensive to mod to easily gain nearly a full second in the quarter, and most Lightning guys I knew had a chip and pulley. I REALLY would like to see some timeslips (or just ET/mph) figures from Legacy owners that have run stock, Stage 1, and Stage 2 so we know what to expect. If Stage 2 Legacy's can run mid 13s pretty consistently (i.e. AP, DP, UP) then yes, you stand a good chance of beating STOCK LS1s and Lightnings in the quarter (assuming equal driving skill). You stand an even better chance in the 1/8 mile or stoplight racing (AWD > *). Martyr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eles1 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Really? http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-1799.html Here's a guy with an auto convertible with only intake, exhaust and reprogram: http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-1206.html This guy just has an intake: http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-333.html Here's a Convertible with just an exhaust: http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-1808.html Here's a guy with just a K&N cone filter: http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-892.html Here's a bone stock: http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Corvette-Timeslip-4422.html And doubters should actually GO to a dragstrip and you'd see it for yourselves too.. ...Been to the track many, many times. I've also owned two LS1's myself. I don't think the times you've claimed for a stock C5 are impossible, but I can tell you from much personal experience that they are highly unlikely. I can't stress this enough, please don't believe everything you read on the internet... Also, the last one you've listed above isn't stock, he has the ultra-rare 350 cubic inch LS1 (J/k)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripod Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Yeah, I noticed that typo as well. Again, I agree with you, that it isn't easy to run 12's in a stock Corvette but it's been done many more times than 13's in a stock LGT. I've seen them run 105-106 mph on slow tracks too. But again, I know most run low 13's I don't think a LGT is capable of running anything lower than a 13.4 on our stock tranny, regardless how much power it's putting down. The clutch won't take launches that hard. And Stage 2 trap speeds will most likely be in the 102 mph range. Well short of what's needed to beat or even run with a stock C5 Corvette at a track and especially on the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mblock66 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Yeah, I noticed that typo as well. Again, I agree with you, that it isn't easy to run 12's in a stock Corvette but it's been done many more times than 13's in a stock LGT. I've seen them run 105-106 mph on slow tracks too. But again, I know most run low 13's I don't think a LGT is capable of running anything lower than a 13.4 on our stock tranny, regardless how much power it's putting down. The clutch won't take launches that hard. And Stage 2 trap speeds will most likely be in the 102 mph range. Well short of what's needed to beat or even run with a stock C5 Corvette at a track and especially on the street. Didn't someone on here run a 13.0 already with their stock tranny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripod Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Not that I've ever seen or heard about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deimos Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Im pretty sure someone here got a 13.1x, but I think thats the best with the stock tranny... 1/4 Mile ET: 13.187 1/4 Mile MPH: 104.480 1/8 Mile ET: 8.462 1/8 Mile MPH: 83.310 0-60 Foot ET: 1.921 Temperature F: 76.0 Car Make: Subaru Car Model: Legacy Car Type: GT Car Year: 2005 Driver: Rob Kennedy E-Mail: Click HERE Web Site: http://www.bluefirehawk.com/legacy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mblock66 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Im pretty sure someone here got a 13.1x, but I think thats the best with the stock tranny... 1/4 Mile ET: 13.187 1/4 Mile MPH: 104.480 1/8 Mile ET: 8.462 1/8 Mile MPH: 83.310 0-60 Foot ET: 1.921 Temperature F: 76.0 Car Make: Subaru Car Model: Legacy Car Type: GT Car Year: 2005 Driver: Rob Kennedy E-Mail: Click HERE Web Site: http://www.bluefirehawk.com/legacy/ Woops you are both right, that is the thread that I saw and for some reason I thought it was 13.08 but it is 13.18. My bad. HOWEVER I bet if it were 40 degrees it might be REAL close to a 13.0x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripod Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Well, that guys car is like a Stage 3+ That BOV sounds Ghay. I noticed deimos listed his 60' time of only 1.92 seconds. That's not much better than a stock LGT can do, and again a testament to the fact it's the tranny holding back better times. He obviously had to launch very conservatively and made up time with all his upgrades in power. Could the stock LGT tranny take 1.6 60' times like an STI or EVO and he'd of been in the mid 12's Where did you guys see his timeslip anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deimos Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Well, that guys car is like a Stage 3+ That BOV sounds Ghay. I noticed deimos listed his 60' time of only 1.92 seconds. That's not much better than a stock LGT can do, and again a testament to the fact it's the tranny holding back better times. He obviously had to launch very conservatively and made up time with all his upgrades in power. Could the stock LGT tranny take 1.6 60' times like an STI or EVO and he'd of been in the mid 12's Where did you guys see his timeslip anyway? It was on that http://www.dragtimes.com website, that has lists of slips. I believe it is 02firehawks car. You seem to be right about the 60' tho. I dont think Ive seen anything less than 1.9x stock or otherwise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTM 525 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 And doubters should actually GO to a dragstrip and you'd see it for yourselves too.. Been going to the strip since 99 when the car had 800 miles on it. Have more passes down the strip than I care to mention. I have seen many many LS1 F-bodies and vettes go. Camaro has 16,000 miles on it a 1/4 mile at a time:lol: . Car went 11.62 with stock internals (stock heads and cam) only had boltons. Headers,LS6 intake,full exhuast,converter,gears,ported TB,weight reduction. I am well versed in getting maximum ET out of an LS1.The Pontiac weighs in a bit more than the Camaros do. My Camaro does not weigh near 3700 in stock trim (though it's been trimmed down alot now). Trust me a 12.9@109 is so far from the norm out of a "stock" vette it's not even funny. My Camaro with an airlid,drag radials and free mods went 12.99 in awesome air. F-bodies out dyno Vettes go to the LS1 forums and read up. This is old news (real old). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyr Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I stand corrected. Good information. Martyr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eles1 Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Well, that guys car is like a Stage 3+ That car is 02bluefirehawk's. IIRC, he's got EBC, FMIC, and some supporting mods. He's still running the stock turbo though, so definitely not stage 3. Maybe stage 2+?? I'm still learning my 'mod stage' terminology The Legacy GT seems to have some amazing potential!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTM 525 Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 He's also running on basically a stock ECU program as well. There is more left in his current setup without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripod Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 That car is 02bluefirehawk's. IIRC, he's got EBC, FMIC, and some supporting mods. He's still running the stock turbo though, so definitely not stage 3. Maybe stage 2+?? I'm still learning my 'mod stage' terminology The Legacy GT seems to have some amazing potential!! By "stage 3" I meant he has a lot more than just a Stage 2 car...easily seen by the pictures. Not taking anything away from his run, but that track also seems to run a bit fast. This guy ran a 12.9 on a Stock STI http://www.dragtimes.com/Subaru-Impreza-Timeslip-5296.html And I've seen MANY other people in other cars, on other forums post fast times at that track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjapimp Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Well my bother-in-law just bought a 04 covette he says it's really fast i told him would you like to get beat by my sedan.He says no problem with that little silver thing.He says i'll smoke you easly..i said will see. What do you guys think is this a race i should of not provoked or should i or can i whip his ass in the quater mile...let me know your thoughts..can i really beat him....thanks..oh by the way is is a auto. Hopefully your driving skill is better than your English. That paragraph hurt...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTM 525 Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 Are we getting graded on our English skills again???? Gimme a break http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~tthomps6/spellingnazi.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prod Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Just to point out something that I think has been overlooked... he's driving a 5EAT LGT. I don't see how he could win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epitaph Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Are we getting graded on our English skills again???? Gimme a break :up: I hate when people do that... The internet has created so many new english terms/lingo and for a good reason, cuz people dont care bout shit like that, if someone wanted to get shit for grammar they'd write an essay :drink: (if thats not a smiley here, we need one of those too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I am outraged that some of the members of this forum would dare to use anything but the proper "Queen's English". All of you damned ruffians have managed to ruin this glorious forum with your vulgar slang terms and poor grammar! If I had my way all of your would be arrested, whipped, and shipped off to the dreadful penal colony in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eles1 Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Just to point out something that I think has been overlooked... he's driving a 5EAT LGT. I don't see how he could win. Where did you see that? The way I read the original post, the Corvette was the auto... If the LGT is an auto, you're right, that will make a huge difference. So, once and for all... Is this LGT an auto or manual?? Also, is the Corvette auto or manual?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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