mwiener2 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I need to move into a larger shop. I'm looking at 3 places right now. The first is in the Vista Business park between I-25 and Longmont on Hwy 119. As far as location, size, and price, this one is the best. The landlord is being picky about building code and wants me to install thousands of dollars worth of air quality control systems that I don't think I'm even required to have. So I don't know if that space will work out. This space is large enough for me to build an office and waiting area and still have plenty of shop space. The second space is the smallest and is in the corner of I-25 and Hwy 52. This space is easy to get too because of it's vicinity to I-25.... but because all the roads around here make triangles, it's just as far from home as my current shop at hwy66 and I-25. It's the absolute smallest I could go. This place has a tiny office/waiting area, but has a nice bathroom with a shower. Shower means full size water heater which means lots of hot water for detailing cars. The third space is on the south side of Longmont behind Safeway off ken pratt. This is the largest space with two garage doors. Lots of space to work and store long term cars. The front/office area is setup weird, but it could work. There is a tiny bathroom in the shop area and the previous tenant left copper air lines on the walls. I don't know how I feel about being IN Longmont though. It takes 10min off my commute, but it also means higher crime rates and more taxes. So what do you guys think? Where should 5250 Performance be located? Should I deal with a picky landlord and go for my number 1 choice? Should I settle for a location that is easy for customers but harder for me? Should I go all sex and the city? My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Somewhere that's also at 5250 feet! Or change your name to 5252. I'd do the first or the third. The second one sounds terrible, and I know what it's like to have a small waiting room and not enough elbow room in the back. The first, if you can get away with not doing the air quality system, would be the best. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squiden Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I vote for somewhere on the south side of Denver... like Castle Rock. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 I do this sort of thing for a living. Stay away from space #1, unless you can get very comfortable that you wo't have ongoing problems with the landlord. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 After the initial signing of the lease, I hope I never see the guy again. that's how my current landlord is. Unless I have a problem with the building... then I hope he is available. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Maybe keep looking also? I would avoid going too far west (and getting closer to Super Rupair). I'd try to stay close to I-25, but possibly venture a little south of where you are now to get closer to Metro Denver to decrease your proximity to most of your clientele. Wouldn't want to be too close to Suba either or that other new place off 74th, so I wouldn't go south of 120th or so. I'd avoid that first option and only consider option #3 so far. My '05 LGT My '07 Supercharged Shelby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Super doesn't scare me. Since Harv left, all they've used their dyno for is a storage rack. They're also running out of techs that know aftermarket and are willing to work on it. The biggest problem about getting closer to super is price. Boulder is $$$$$$ I'm gonna stay in this longmont I-25 bouldery area mostly because that's where the spaces are for the right price. I also like being in weld county. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 After the initial signing of the lease, I hope I never see the guy again. that's how my current landlord is. Unless I have a problem with the building... then I hope he is available. Keep the faith, but that is not what is likely to happen. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted February 26, 2011 Author Share Posted February 26, 2011 We found a loophole in the code for the air system. It states that if the vehicle is running only when it is being moved into and out of the building, then the air quality control is not needed. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AShoe Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 ^I thought you guys had a dyno? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted February 26, 2011 Author Share Posted February 26, 2011 TheBoostCreep does, I do not My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rweezy Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Harvey is still gonna be there I assume? Hoping to use the dyno this late spring. Good luck with the transition and congrats on expanding must mean business is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madjik_Man Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 So what do you guys think? Where should 5250 Performance be located? Lafayette We need unique high quality services to help our town. Plus, you'd be close to me so whenever I need help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted February 27, 2011 Author Share Posted February 27, 2011 there aren't any spaces available in Lafayette....unless you know of any my Realtor couldn't find. I'm looking for 2000-3000 square feet. 2k-2.5k is ideal My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madjik_Man Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 there aren't any spaces available in Lafayette....unless you know of any my Realtor couldn't find. I'm looking for 2000-3000 square feet. 2k-2.5k is ideal I'm trying to think of some with garages (assuming you need at least one bay?) but there's boatloads of empty office/commercial space here unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madjik_Man Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Now that I think about it, there's tons of space in the commercial park behind the Diamond Shamrock/Walgreens, etc one block west of 287 on Baseline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I'm trying to think of some with garages (assuming you need at least one bay?) but there's boatloads of empty office/commercial space here unfortunately I believe it has to be zoned as automotive repair, which makes things significantly more complicated. Is that an actual law in CO, that you have to have air quality systems if the car is running inside the shop? Or do you just have to have a squirrel fan with rubber hose to cover the tail pipe and route exhaust outside? [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madjik_Man Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I believe it has to be zoned as automotive repair, which makes things significantly more complicated. Is that an actual law in CO, that you have to have air quality systems if the car is running inside the shop? Or do you just have to have a squirrel fan with rubber hose to cover the tail pipe and route exhaust outside? I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted March 1, 2011 Author Share Posted March 1, 2011 Because I do mostly performance and not mostly oil changes.... I don't quite fit into the normal "garage" section when it comes to code. You'd be surprised at where I am zoned. The 2009 International Building Code states that any facility where combustion engines are run must have a ventilation system that is computer controlled with CO sensors. Then it gets into how much air it has to move based on size and use. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madjik_Man Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 There is a space available (more behind the Chilis) that has a huge garage door on the front. You can see it from 287 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted March 6, 2011 Author Share Posted March 6, 2011 So I found another place thats across the street from where I am now. It's small, but I think it will do. The previous tenants grew weed so there's exhaust fans already and lots of power outlets. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madjik_Man Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 So I found another place thats across the street from where I am now. It's small, but I think it will do. The previous tenants grew weed so there's exhaust fans already and lots of power outlets. Where are you now? Boulder? Longmont? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted March 7, 2011 Author Share Posted March 7, 2011 Longmont My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madjik_Man Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Demographically speaking do you think Longmont is a better location than East Boulder/East-Bo County? Boulder seems to have a lot more Subarus per capita as well as the rich college kids with money to drop into high performance mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 It close enough to Boulder, people will make the drive. The Boulder location is better as a storefront, but boulder county codes and taxes suck for the actual running of the business. Where I'm located, I'm in weld county and technically in the town of Mead, but with a Longmont mailing address. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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