01rs25 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Well it seems the LGT surprised me again. Not only have I had an oil pick up failure. But yesterday on the way home the Throw out bearing decided it wanted to eat itself. No signs, no indications, just clutch in to shift and Bam.. Rocks in the tranny case. Figured I'd write out my torment for the past 2 days. Tranny's out and heres what I found. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/8c6433e1.jpg The car in its current predicament. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/45cf5c24.jpg Luckily Jeremy and the rest of the guys at Fred Beans were available to help. I've gone with the Clutchmasters fx300 Single Mass Fly TSk3 snout kit I'll post my reviews in this thread once its in. Slammed more than your girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnJack Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Very interested in hearing how you like the Clutchmasters. I'm going to need to replace my clutch eventually and am looking for a strong stock feeling clutch. (if that's possible) However my clutch has 92K on it, with 42K of that being stage 2 and still feels strong. Hopefully it lasts a little while yet, but my main concern is the TOB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01rs25 Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Yeah my car just clicked over 65k, although 55 of that was stage 2, and the last 5 or so has been stage3. I've needed a new clutch for quite a while as its been slipping for the past year or so under heavy acceleration. I'm excited aswell about the new additions. Hopefully they show up tomorrow like ther scheduled. But I guess the weather may have something different to say. It started snowing here about an hour or two ago. Slammed more than your girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Been running the exedy stage1 clutch and lwfw. I am going to replace it with a cx300 when I roast the exedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirbOOm Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Had my TOB replaced when I replaced my clutch at like 65K thanks to the information on this forum scaring the crap out of me. Hope the new one never looks like that - sorry that happened. At least you know how to tear the thing apart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01rs25 Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Yeah my mechanical experience certainly helps keep the bill down. Most local shops wanted upwards of 800 bucks in labor. Ups says the clutch will be here tomorrow. Although I'll probably wait until Friday or so when my EWG is supposed to show up. I figured the installation of the uppipe would be pretty easy once the transmission/downpipe are already out of the way. Slammed more than your girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01rs25 Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Parts arrived today.. Thanks againd Jeremy and Fred Beans! I'm excited to get them in. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/4de8f5c9.jpg Slammed more than your girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirbOOm Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I can replace a clutch on a Harley... not a Subaru... too much involved. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I'm curious about the CM kit. Post pics of the kit itself? [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01rs25 Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Certainly. And your close enough that you can test it out.. Unforunently this purchase has made your coils out of the question for a few more weeks if there still for sale. Slammed more than your girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnJack Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Is that the OEM single mass flywheel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01rs25 Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 I'll add alittle to this as I go. I'm in no hurry so I've been taking my time and making sure everything is done properly. First off. The Damage: I don't know if it was the snout or the throw out bearing that went first, but either way the snout was damaged in the mayhem, and needed to be cleaned up in order to install the TSk3 snout repair kit. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/Clutch%20Replacement/IMG_2752.jpg With the fork removed http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/Clutch%20Replacement/IMG_2755.jpg The remaining part of the throw out bearings race as well as few other pieces were fused to the snout so they needed to come off before any sort of progress could be made on the transmission. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/Clutch%20Replacement/IMG_2756.jpg The final damage report. BAD, very very Bad! http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/Clutch%20Replacement/IMG_2757.jpg I ended up using some heavy duty cutting discs on the end of my dremel, in order to cut off about a 1/16th of an inch off the end of the snout in order to free up the input shaft. And then some sanding discs allowed me to clean up enough space in order to slide the replacement snout in place. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/Clutch%20Replacement/IMG_2761.jpg Put a little grease on it and slide the new throw out bearing in place. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/Clutch%20Replacement/IMG_2766.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/Clutch%20Replacement/IMG_2767.jpg And thats where I ended for the night. The stock clutch assembly has been removed so I could see if there was any damage to the back of the motor from the explosion. And everything seems to be in okay condition considering what happened. There were still quite a few pieces lodged between the pressure plate and clutch assembly as well as the clutch and flywheel. OEM clutch has been slipping for quite a while and was planned to be replaced within the next few weeks when I was going to pull the motor for some more things. Either way it was holding fine within the lower gears, although slipping when in full boost on the beltway. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/Clutch%20Replacement/IMG_2768.jpg Quite a bit of glazing on both surfaces. Not much meat left on the clutch surface. Good thing its getting replaced. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/Clutch%20Replacement/IMG_2770.jpg And the new clutch. Clutchmasters FX300 with OEM wrx Single mass flywheel. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/Clutch%20Replacement/IMG_2771.jpg Close up of the disc http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/Clutch%20Replacement/IMG_2772.jpg Seems to be manufactured by Exedy http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/Clutch%20Replacement/IMG_2773.jpg. Seems to be quite a odd combination of material on the clutch surface, and there certainly doesn't seem to be much meat there. I hope that it lasts a decent life. More install pics and, possibly a review tomorrow. Slammed more than your girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01rs25 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 Got everything buttoned up last night. The new TOB is nice and snug on the sleeve which should get rid of any chatter for people that tend to have that problem. The clutch is bolted to the motor, and the transmission is installed. I only have a few more things in order to button everything up, and then I'll be finished. Hopefully I'll be able to review the clutch tonight if everything goes as planned. Slammed more than your girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 This a great example of what the sleeve is for and how the sleeve saves the day. There is a seal on the input shaft that should have kept debris out of the transmission. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I'm interested to hear what you think of that clutch. Exedy makes most clutches. They are a VERY big company. I haven't decided what clutch I'll use yet. I was going to go ACT Stage 1 with a stock WRX flywheel, but I don't know if I want a pedal that stiff. Maybe I'll explore replacing the clutch master cylinder with one of larger bore. That would reduce pedal effort quite a bit, and I wouldn't mind a heavier clutch. I could probably find one and make an adapter flange to bolt it up. I'm also going to do a TSK3 when I do a clutch, just for prevention. I have no desire to spend the time swapping cases for a bad snout. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01rs25 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 This a great example of what the sleeve is for and how the sleeve saves the day. There is a seal on the input shaft that should have kept debris out of the transmission. This is exactly right! I'm glad some one was bright enough to think of such a thing. It works flawlessly. I'm interested to hear what you think of that clutch. Exedy makes most clutches. They are a VERY big company. I haven't decided what clutch I'll use yet. I was going to go ACT Stage 1 with a stock WRX flywheel, but I don't know if I want a pedal that stiff. Maybe I'll explore replacing the clutch master cylinder with one of larger bore. That would reduce pedal effort quite a bit, and I wouldn't mind a heavier clutch. I could probably find one and make an adapter flange to bolt it up. I'm also going to do a TSK3 when I do a clutch, just for prevention. I have no desire to spend the time swapping cases for a bad snout. The TSK3 kit is definitely recommended whether or not you have the same problem I had or not. As far as the rest of the job. I had the opportunity this afternoon to finish up the rest of the install and I couldn't have asked for it to go any easier. Well except all the local auto parts stores didn't have a 3inch exhaust gasket the right size for the downpipe junction. I'll have to score one from a perfomance shop. Possibly IAG or something. The clutch it self works flawlessly, although the pedal feel is alot softer then I'm used to. Slammed more than your girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 What clutch did you have? [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01rs25 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 It was an OEM unit as far as I could tell. If your free tonight, we could always meet up and you could check the car out. Slammed more than your girlfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Tonight is no bueno. I'll PM you though. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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