Leonardo Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 NGK's are cheaper than the OEM ones so that comes down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 The plug Autozone gave me was an NGK BKR5EGP. BKR is usually for the 2.0L My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSpeed Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 My Legacy is geting all grown up and is gona hit the 60K mile in a few months and when that happens it's time to changes some that i don't know whats cold in the engine. When that's done it's aperantly a good time to change the spark plugs cus the engine has to be removed fore that. Now my question is. Are aftermarket spark plugs any better? Am I the only one that had trouble understanding the original post? I mean, I read it 4 times and still don't understand why the engine is being removed besides "some that I don't know what's cold in the engine"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 He's removing the engine because it makes changing the spark plugs alot easier.... which it does. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSpeed Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 He's removing the engine because it makes changing the spark plugs alot easier.... which it does. I hate changing spark plugs, you know that... But removing the engine requires laying on the ground, bear hugging the engine, and wrestling around until it separates from the tranny... At least that's what Rao told me when nothing else was working.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 geeze so about 150ish give or take hu? That is a bit on the pricey side for plugs My buddy has an 08 Porsche Cayenne S, and the dealer wants $3200 to change the spark plugs and oil. $150 is what I was planning on charging him. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Aren't the plugs on top on a Cayenne? SSpeed - Maybe he has a lift so he doesn't have to lay on the ground My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSpeed Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Ha ha, ever call the dealer to see what they want to change our plugs? After I did the turbo swap on my car and got the engine back in to the wife's Outback, I called around for quotes on changing my plugs because I was so frustrated with working on the car at that point, it's not cheap either. Luckily mwiener2 helped me out... A lift would have been very nice and probably saved a trip to the eye doctor to get crap out of my eyes that made it past the safety glasses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Aren't the plugs on top on a Cayenne? It's a big V8 Not very Porsche-like, but then the whole car is one massive contradiction... Found all sorts of ways to save money for him... "Porsche Magical ATF" for $33/qt is in fact Mobil 3309 for $10/qt, which is cross-compatible with Toyota Type-IV for $4.50/qt. The list goes on... his last brake job was $3000, because his wife took it in... I love senseless rich people. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygerr Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 He's removing the engine because it makes changing the spark plugs alot easier.... which it does. I thought you were joking. I guess I'm just ignorant when it comes to the gt. I guess your engine bay is a lot more cramped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I think he is joking... At least for me it's much more work to pull the engine than to change the plugs where they are. Maybe middle ground would be unbolting the engine mounts and lifting it up an inch if you really get claustrophobic. I did this to get an Up Pipe installed and it worked fine. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 But it really is easier to change the plugs when the engine is out of the car. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlBlueGT Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 But it really is easier to change the plugs when the engine is out of the car. I believe you, I have to get mine done and there's like 3-4 inches between valve covers and frame rails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Longest its ever taken me to do plugs is 3-4 hours. Fastest I've ever pulled and replaced an engine is about 7 hours. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlBlueGT Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Longest its ever taken me to do plugs is 3-4 hours. Fastest I've ever pulled and replaced an engine is about 7 hours. How do you usually change them, what is your procedure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I can do plugs in about 20-30 min now. It is just practice that makes it go faster. I use a swivel spark plug socket with a stubby extension and a regular hand ratchet. Power tools don't belong here. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMER DOWN Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Longest its ever taken me to do plugs is 3-4 hours. Fastest I've ever pulled and replaced an engine is about 7 hours. That's about right, laying on you back. Lot quicker if you have a lift. GT should be under 2hr. With my lift. If I ever pull the motor out. I would cut & weld in 4 tube in the frame rail. That would make spark plug change in under 30min. Mike Mileage:331487 Retired/Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonardo Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 That's an idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slvrlegacygt Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 im trying to make sense of all this spark plug talk, i have been searching all over the site for some answers but to me this is somewhat confusing. I am running stage 2 and i see everywhere that people are going one step colder with the plugs and are buying ngk because they work the best and are oem brand from my understanding. I went to check out fred beans parts, they have the one step colder plugs but say its mainly for use with cars that are running numbers of 100 hp over stock. I know there is no way any stage 2 legacy is running 100 hp over stock, should i just stick with oem plugs right from the dealership since i cant seem to find the right part number since they are now using newer part numbers and arent these plugs pre gapped if so why if everyone changing the gap setting even though ngk recommends that you do not change them if so its at your own risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumfoo1 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 The only think i would switch to is 1 step colder SILVER ELECTRODE plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Silver may be a better conductor, but it's not as durable My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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