rao Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 because you will break stuff My friend got his Outback XT high centered int he recent snow storm and then he couldn't get the car to shift in to 1st or second (it sort of went into second but would only engage once it was rolling, making it hard to drive since it had to be started in third). Normally when this sort of thing happens you an expect to see some carnage when you open up the transmission. In this case everything looked perfect except the 1-2 slider would not even move toward 1st and would only move about half-way to second Here is a Pic of the inside of the transmission case, the main shaft and the front differential - 5th gear is on the right in the pan and 1st is the last gear on the left. http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3752/img00009201102070952.jpg Bad pics of the stack of what Subaru calls the "Pinion shaft" http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8600/img00006201102070952.jpg http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/2624/img00007201102070952.jpg So everything looks to be in perfect condition, but the 1-2 slider won't move, after studying the parts for quite a while, I determined the problem and it is shown in this picture. The dog gears on 1st slammed into the slider and deformed the face of the slider enough to prevent it's smooth travel. It is pretty subtle. http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3971/img00008201102070952.jpg New parts on the way, along with a new 07+ single mass flywheel clutch - he also completely took out the clutch and put a ton of heat into the pressure plate and flywheel. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Ugh, pics blocked at work. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Whoa! Rao, pics a little fuzzy but that synchro/gear assembly is toast. I'd probably change out the 2-3 and 3-4 synchro rings while I was in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted February 7, 2011 Author Share Posted February 7, 2011 The syncros are fine, the gear assembly in the center of the last pics is indeed gone. The stuff in the center is just the shift keys and some dirt, the problem is the deflection on the face of the outer gear. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 What'd he do exactly to cause this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 He claims garden gnomes must have slipped into the garage one evening and caused the damage However, I am going with the theory that he slammed it into 1st (or attempted to) when he got high centered during a snow storm. My theory is supported by the facts.... Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 You mean he was trying to rock the car and had it in reverse and quickly threw it into 1st? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 I wasn't there, but that is what it looks like happened. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeleodee Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 You mean that's not safe to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Not in a 5MT. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j255c Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 get a 6 speed. 06 TB EVO IX SE stock turbo monster subaru hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted February 11, 2011 Author Share Posted February 11, 2011 Fixed and back on the road Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnguyenbb6 Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 Dammit...I'll have to stop slamming my car into first now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 Awesome work! [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmoleg05 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Hey Rao, Just curious I am currently having that issue with my 05 lgt 5mt. going to be tearing it apart tomorrow. Do you have a parts list and approx cost of fixing car. Minus the labor, if you charged any considering it was a friend. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 No parts list, we just ordered what was needed and my friend also decided to replace most of the bearings. I think it was about $600 or so in parts. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmoleg05 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Ok sounds great thanks for the response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmoleg05 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Rob, Another Quick question, could it be the bent shift fork on the top of the transmission?? Or more likely a bent shift fork internally?? Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 It was not the shift fork or the selector - it was the dogs of the gear itself. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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