ClimberDHexMods Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I have seen the DCCD pro and am looking to use their setup. Just deciding on the manual controller or the universal controller.... :] What do you run? Don't buy the manual one. The guy selling them even says not to. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacks Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 Don't buy the manual one. The guy selling them even says not to. Any particular reason? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Any particular reason? ??? Because (unless you only plan on drag racing) you will have to disengage the DCCD every time you turn. Then re-engage it every time you accelerate in a straight line when you would otherwise spin out the rear. It would be a huge pain after a while. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacks Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 Because (unless you only plan on drag racing) you will have to disengage the DCCD every time you turn. Then re-engage it every time you accelerate in a straight line when you would otherwise spin out the rear. It would be a huge pain after a while. That makes sense... i figured it would be less suitable for DD'ing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I have the automatic one, but haven't hooked it up yet. I've been running with the DCCD wires disconnected (open diff) with no issues. In fact I really like the way it handles and I'll probably leave it off most of the time (or at least, turned way down) even when I do get it hooked up. I haven't driven on snow this way though, and I'm pretty sure that would suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacks Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 Yeah the dccd would just act as a viscous coupling if not hooked up to anything... the automatic model is definitely tempting though since the rest of the swap is considerably inexpensive. And snow driving would be as much fun as a regular 5mt... desiring more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMA44 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 good stuff on getting the parts in slacks! get her built and let's go to atco! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacks Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share Posted March 24, 2011 good stuff on getting the parts in slacks! get her built and let's go to atco! I'm so down for 6k clutch dumps at atco! Especially since this was thrown on too.. http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/Slacks/fmic.jpg I should be ordering the DCCD unit from another nasioc member tonight or tomorrow and assuming it's in good shape when i take it apart then the trans will be swapped in hopefully the next two weeks in time for some good atco nights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Actually, there's no VC in there, so it's an open diff when there's no controller connected. On a hard launch I get a lot of rear wheelspin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacks Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Well it acts similarly.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMA44 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 wow, lookin good PQ! looking forward to seeing it all together. i'm down for some 2500 clutch dumps LOL, i'm afraid to dump at anything higher.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutbackXT05 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Rebuild is looking good. I wish i could afford a 6mt swap at the moment for my gimped 5mt that cant downshift or shift at high rpm. Even though subaru says its the flywheel. I think the only time I'd dump the clutch is in rain. I just think somethigs going to give. But ill launch it all day at 5.5k with my launch control and just feather it a smidge. Still gets a little bit of rubber and throws my woofer box against my trunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyT Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 subscribed for more awesomeness!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
integroid Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Because (unless you only plan on drag racing) you will have to disengage the DCCD every time you turn. Then re-engage it every time you accelerate in a straight line when you would otherwise spin out the rear. It would be a huge pain after a while. I have the manual only because I needed a way to control the dccd to run my car on a dynojet. The 40/60 split was causing havic. I actually prefer to drive the car on the 40/60 split and only lock it down when going on a dyno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Interesting, makes me wonder how much of a benefit is to be had from setting up aftermarket 5eat center diff control with the 47/53 split if some of you guys are happier with the thrill of less lock. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacks Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Well I've located a DCCD unit from another scooby tech in florida for $500 shipped! Other than that I'm only waiting on my shift knob to come in the mail It'll be reassembled next week, reseal the rear differential and ready to install the next week. I'll have to wait to wire in the DCCD controller until obama gives me my tax return money lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacks Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Rebuild is looking good. I wish i could afford a 6mt swap at the moment for my gimped 5mt that cant downshift or shift at high rpm. Even though subaru says its the flywheel. I think the only time I'd dump the clutch is in rain. I just think somethigs going to give. But ill launch it all day at 5.5k with my launch control and just feather it a smidge. Still gets a little bit of rubber and throws my woofer box against my trunk. Just find a blown 6mt! (If you can lol). The project so far is still well under the $2000 mark (about $1600-1700 so far) so this is possible to do on a college student/broke tech's budget lol. The way I'm justifying it is the longer gearing (better mpg's lol), DCCD and the fact that I've known a few people that have blown numerous motors mated to 6mt's and the trans still holds up amazingly strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacks Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 Shift knob came in and a peek at another goodie from an 08 STI Center diff and new wiring harness should be here wednesday (old one was butchered by a friend during removal lol) http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/Slacks/190515_1713021308939_1340340262_31823385_7742407_n.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacks Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 Save the dates! Wednesday comes the last of my final orders with a 6mt group-n trans mount, rear shifter bushing, and a few bolts/clips for the reverse lockout. Thursday is swap day! I took the day off to go in and bang out the swap minus any dccd controller pieces. I'll do my best to document comparisons between parts like the driveshafts, shift linkage and converting the rear lgt axles to accommodate the R180 rear! Cheers until then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacks Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 So the swap was performed yesterday with minor setbacks! The trans came out no problem (had it out last year anyway lol) and getting it in was much tighter than expected since this thing is so much bigger. The driveshaft was from an auto 05-09 4EAT legacy sedan which went in no problem as well. The shift linkage was from a 2008+ STI which fit PERFECTLY so that WILL work. Just be sure to check your reverse lockout cable in case it comes close to the driveshaft (makes a funny noise lol). http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/Slacks/0414011652.jpg Here's where the problem was.... according to many SOA catalogs the part numbers for the actual axle shaft in the rear was the same from all legacy/outback platforms regardless of transmissions. So I had the inner DOJ kits to rebuilt the axles to fit.... unfortunately this did not work. As seen in the picture below the races were two different sizes and much bigger than that of my OEM 05 LGT axles. I was able to reassemble the joint but everything was so loose it wasn't worth putting it in the car. http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/Slacks/0414010923_0001.jpg As a result I had to get a vor axle purchase from the westhampton parts warehouse... so $600+ later the axles worked a lot better. From that point on it was all gravy getting the massive new rear diff in the car. The mounting studs that run from on top of the differential to the crossmember were a little but shorter but still work. http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/Slacks/0414011419.jpg I also installed the group-n transmission mount for 6mt, rear shifter bushing, torque solutions pitch stop and techna-fit ss clutch line; this trans barely moves in the car. I haven't beaten on it yet (letting the clutch break in more) but it feels incredibly solid... it outweighs the obnoxious 1st and 2nd gear noises! Now for some misc pictures of things... http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/Slacks/0414011235.jpg http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/Slacks/0414010923a.jpg http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/Slacks/0414011405.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacks Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 Oops! Forgot the obligatory middle finger to the old trans picture! http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b345/Slacks/0414011235a.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSFW Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Right on! Congrats on the swap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
integroid Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Sorry about the driveshaft problem. I could of told you that last week. We tried to do the same thing and found out what you did and had to order a new axle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacks Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 Thanks guys! So far everything is awesome except for the fact that i have a shudder on lower speed acceleration so I might have placed the ring gear too close to the pinion. Time to tinker with that situation now lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndmx52 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 What are you doing with the old transmission? Selling it? If so, I'm interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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