atcheng Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 I'm debating which one of these to get. From K&N, it looks like I can gain HP, but based on what I've read in here, it sounds like I'll only lose HP with Perrin. Thoughts? Here's a link from K&N, substantiating their gain (of course it's biased though ) http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=69-8003TFK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Do both!!! You should have gotten the GTx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redline76 Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Take the money and do an uppipe....you'll get more out of that. OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atcheng Posted May 11, 2005 Author Share Posted May 11, 2005 yeah, I was really looking for the superficial whoosh sound without investing in a new BOV. Can I get that from a new uppipe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 yeah, I was really looking for the superficial whoosh sound without investing in a new BOV. Can I get that from a new uppipe? No but your turbo will spool up faster. Did you remove the intake silencer? OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brio11 Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 like redline76 said, neither. losses > benefits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGGTLTD Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Yeah get the Uppipe and do the intake silencer removal mod Megan header,Perrin TMIC, TD06-20G,AEM CAI, Lachute DP, Avo BOV, BC Coilovers, Magnaflow catback, Hawk HPS pads, Stoptech lines, Snow WI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msavino Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 yeah, I was really looking for the superficial whoosh sound without investing in a new BOV. Can I get that from a new uppipe? Remove silencer. and get the Perrin panel filter (drop in) plenty of sound. The dyno chart looks like they had a crappy base run 187whp sounds a little low from what I've seen.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallispec Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 perrin panel filter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atcheng Posted May 11, 2005 Author Share Posted May 11, 2005 Yeah, I've removed the intake silencer, still not loud enough (Apparently I'm going deaf). Trying to do this as cheaply as possible...Guess I'll try the panel filter next losses > benefits [/Quote] What are some of the losses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msavino Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 The panel filter makes a big diff with the sound your looking for. You can't just take off the silancer bacause as you found out, it really doesn't make a diff. the thin-ness of the panel filter allows more volume from the blow off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam G Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 What are some of the losses? K&N users seem to have more MAFs go bad. The oil from the intake coats the sensor and could ruin it. Some Nissan guys supposedly solved this problem by leaving the filter out of the box for a few days and then installing it, but IDK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atcheng Posted May 12, 2005 Author Share Posted May 12, 2005 roger that...thanks all, $39 Perrin Flat Panel Filter, here I come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xantium Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 having the maf sensor (actually with the bl chassis its map) that close the "cone" is absolutly terrible... air has not smoothed out yet to be read properly... the stock intake+avo filter is the way to go until cobb comes up with something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atcheng Posted May 12, 2005 Author Share Posted May 12, 2005 so let me ask this for those who have tried all 3...K&N, Perrin, or AVO flat panel filter? I'm looking for the one with the loudest whoosh factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVXWRX Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 K&N users seem to have more MAFs go bad. The oil from the intake coats the sensor and could ruin it. Some Nissan guys supposedly solved this problem by leaving the filter out of the box for a few days and then installing it, but IDK. i'm not a fan of oiled filters, because they don't filter as well as the stock ones, in addition to the oily MAF sensor, and the fact that i'm just lazy and would rather throw the old one in the garbage and just replace it, as opposed to cleaning, drying and oiling. if you must get the mad tyte sound and performance (or lack of), you can at least use a shop vac to suck the extra oil off the filter (in the direction of actual airflow) before installing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msavino Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 if you must get the mad tyte sound and performance (or lack of), you can at least use a shop vac to suck the extra oil off the filter (in the direction of actual airflow) before installing it. Is this a serious comment? Trust me...taking any of the manufacturer designed amount of oil out is a bad idea. This will lead to unwanted elements entering your engine. As for which is the loudest. The Perrin is by far. Its the only one with the foam element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasiocks Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Just checked the web site... $29.99 Never mind. That's for the WRX/STI. Leg is $39.99. Everything is more expensive for the Legacy... Damnit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberpollo Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 K&N is currently backordered by about 40 on that item. They told me that production for the Legacy part number will begin again on May 20th and they should ship around the 1st of June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVXWRX Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Is this a serious comment? Trust me...taking any of the manufacturer designed amount of oil out is a bad idea. This will lead to unwanted elements entering your engine. this is the "extra" oil tha will get sucked in the engine and foul your MAF sensor. the filter remains "oiled" - you are just sucking off the oil that isn't absorbed by the gauze media - unless you can oil a filter *perfectly*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team23jordan Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 i had K&N fipk on my lightning and when i changed my 80mm maf to 90mm maf my 80mm maf didn't have any "extra oil" on maf sensor Perrin BIG maf intake Perrin Turbo Inlet HKS SSQV BOV Megan Racing header with UP (ceramic coated) HKS DP (WRX) DMH E-cutout Custom 3" catback UTEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msavino Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 this is the "extra" oil tha will get sucked in the engine and foul your MAF sensor. the filter remains "oiled" - you are just sucking off the oil that isn't absorbed by the gauze media - unless you can oil a filter *perfectly*. 503-643-4677 ....here is the Perrin support line. Ask for jeff, he is the top tech. This is of corse if you still don't believe me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVXWRX Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 503-643-4677 ....here is the Perrin support line. Ask for jeff, he is the top tech. This is of corse if you still don't believe me.... i'm talking about K&N-style gauze n' oil filters. i don't know about foam filters, so i probably wouldn't try it on those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carcand Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Neither. I got something better for you, check this out. http://www.fastwrx.com/gpinb.html or http://www.ej257.net/legacy-intake.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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