sleeper8406 Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 So i noticed today that one of the tophat bolts on my newly installed specB struts is snapped off. I had a shop put these on, the fronts anyway I did the rears myself. Is this hard to fix, can I do it myself; if so what do i need to do it. Any help would be much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 If the stud is replaceable, you gotta do that. Not a terribly hard job, but you may need a spring compressor. If the stud is not replaceable, you need a new strut My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Geez. You do not need spring compressor if you don't need to remove tophat from the strut (which you shouldn't). And with this suspension you don't need spring compressor at all even if you were to remove the top hat. The bad news is Subaru doesn't sell the studs separately. It should be possible to find a replacement but otherwise you'll have to buy new top hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasopoliS Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 The shop should have known that these bolts only need about 15 in-lbs of torque. That sucks. Get a new top hat and make the shop put it on... unless you can replace the stud by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Geez. You do not need spring compressor if you don't need to remove tophat from the strut (which you shouldn't). And with this suspension you don't need spring compressor at all even if you were to remove the top hat. Rears are NOT under tension when off the car. Fronts ARE under tension and do require a spring compressor My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Rears are NOT under tension when off the car. Fronts ARE under tension and do require a spring compressor Don't argue with me about suspension installs. The tension is minimal even with stock springs, and non-existent with lowering springs. I disassembled (and assembled) numerous sets without spring compressor. As long as you're not putting your face two inches away from the top hat it's perfectly safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 I don't care if YOU think it's safe. You should use a spring compressor on the fronts. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanboy Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Oh an Uncle Wiener fight! -B http://www.standardshift.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Don't argue with me about suspension installs. The tension is minimal even with stock springs, and non-existent with lowering springs. I disassembled (and assembled) numerous sets without spring compressor. As long as you're not putting your face two inches away from the top hat it's perfectly safe. Maybe it's not safe on your crappy Outback suspension... which indeed is not safe to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 lgt suspension has very little preload on the spring when installed. ive done all of my spring installs without a compressor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruski Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 unclemat, I know you know just about everything when it comes to suspension stuff for the Legacy Gt. But damn do you have to be so cocky and rude about giving your knowledge to everyone? I know you have done it to me on more then one occasion. Everyone is here to learn. And since i just installed konis and ralliteks on my LGT last weekend i would go ahead and say you need a spring compressor just to be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I am not "cocky and rude" to everyone, only to a select few who spread misinformation with authority. You are included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Uncle speaks the truth, he's even caught me out a few times but don't tell him Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruski Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I am not "cocky and rude" to everyone, only to a select few who spread misinformation with authority. You are included. You need a spring compressor to take off take apart an OEM LGT front suspension. I just did the install last weekend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasopoliS Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I think unclemat is just standing up for the forum when bold statements are made such as "spring compressors are needed". A correct statement to make: As always is the case, spring compressors are the safest option, but are are not needed by any means if proper installation procedures and precautions are covered. i.e. don't be looking down the barrel of your tophat when removing the nut. same goes for the other end. Be safe and smart. If you are using an impact wrench, its even safer and actually very easy w/o spring compressors. Spring compressors are purely optional and not absolutely required for the install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05pearl Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 If you are using an impact wrench, its even safer and actually very easy w/o spring compressors. As specified by Subaru and most strut manufacturers, impact guns are not to be used to remove or install the top hat. If the impact gun spins the nut and threaded section instead of spinning just the nut, you can damage the seals of the strut. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvento Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Yea he jumps on you when your just asking a question?? And you are tyring to learn I say we ban him hahah:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 *popcorn* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Unless you are very experienced at struts I feel that telling you not to use a compressor is just bad advice. Safety first guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Unless you are very experienced at struts I feel that telling you not to use a compressor is just bad advice. Safety first guys. There are some people on here that I would highly recommend don't use a spring compressor Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradyCat Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 +1 for needing spring compressors. When I was removing the stock spring during my iON install on my USDM bilsteins a few weeks ago, I nearly got bit by a flying top hat when I removed the top nut, because apparently I didn't have the spring compressed quite far enough when I went to remove the nut. Had I not used compressors at all, that thing might have rocketed off and taken a finger with it.... maybe that's just the bilsteins though.... 2013 Ford Taurus SHO 2009 Spec.B SWP Stg 2+ Airboy tuned 2010 Toyota Sequoia Platinum 5.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullfrg Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 unclemat, I know you know just about everything when it comes to suspension stuff for the Legacy Gt. But damn do you have to be so cocky and rude about giving your knowledge to everyone? I know you have done it to me on more then one occasion. Everyone is here to learn. And since i just installed konis and ralliteks on my LGT last weekend i would go ahead and say you need a spring compressor just to be safe. With Rallitek and Konis I am not sure you could do it without one, at least I couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruski Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 With Rallitek and Konis I am not sure you could do it without one, at least I couldn't. Didnt need the spring compressor when I installed the Rallitek springs. Only when I had to take the OEM ones off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeper8406 Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 So I talked to the shop today, they say they don't know how it could have happened and that they would fix it. He kind of implied that the bolts/ studs were crappy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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