DarkLegacy Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 What are the benefits of having a short throw shifter and how difficult is it to install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Install is easy. Benefit is shorter shift throws. You'll get an increase in notchiness, and an increase in the effort required to shift. The former is significant to some, the latter is marginal. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnymack Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 I have the Kartboy STS + bushings on my SpecB. Had the same setup on my WRX. I won't own a car without a short shifter. Driving is more fun, I can flip my wrist to change gears when crusing through stop and go rush hour traffic. Shifting feels more precise. I recommend the KArtboy STS kit to everyone. I installed both with the a little help from a friend. The 6spd took longer to install than the 5 speed because you have to run the "reverse" cable to the collar through the shifter itself. Should take about 1 hour on the 5 speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLegacy Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 Will I have to remove center console trim in order to install... I am just worried about breaking the trim... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnymack Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Will I have to remove center console trim in order to install... I am just worried about breaking the trim... You'll be fine. Just be careful. Don't pull too hard. I am not a mechanic and this was an easy install. You have to start somewhere, this is a good place to get your feet wet and learn a little something about your car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLegacy Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 Thanks for the advice... I have done my tb exhaust, top mount, brake lines, up-pipe install, radiator flush, intake replace, brakes, etc... myself... I just dont want to crack the trim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 DarkLegacy - It's one of the easiest jobs I've ever done, outside of replacing an air filter. Just take your time, always apply pressure lightly and gradually building until you achieve your objective, and be careful with the trim parts. Make sure you have ALL the tools and such that you need beforehand. I would recommend a pair of snap-ring pliers, though people have done fine without them it took me about 15 minutes to undo the snap-ring with a pair of needle nose.... The benefit, for me, was vastly reduced shift knob height and throw length. The shifter is no longer in the way of either the radio or climate control buttons at all. I did have excess notchiness and swapping to a better trans fluid seems to have cured that. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLegacy Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 Is there an install guide available... Next question... anyone have a sts and bushings they want to sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeFromPA Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Thanks for the advice... I have done my tb exhaust, top mount, brake lines, up-pipe install, radiator flush, intake replace, brakes, etc... myself... I just dont want to crack the trim It's actually very difficult to crack or break the trim. It's NOT hard to scratch it though, so be careful. I adjusted my STS about 6-8 times, meaning I took all the trim off that many times. I never scratched it, but it's no longer a super-tight fit where it meets the cup-holder trim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLegacy Posted July 22, 2009 Author Share Posted July 22, 2009 Okay... I was always nervous about that install... but now I feel pretty confident I can do it with no problems... I am going to stop by sears after work and see if I can pick up a pair of snap ring pliers... Thanks Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtang Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 heres a link on install http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16708&highlight=shifter+bushing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLegacy Posted July 26, 2009 Author Share Posted July 26, 2009 Thanks... I subscribed to it... I have a cobb sts on way... I want to buy some shifter bushings as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLegacy Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 One more question... Can any front shifter bushings be used with any sts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtang Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 i currently have stock front shifter bushings with a cobb double adjustable short throw shifter... i dont think it matters... i do have the cobb shifter bushings as well im just too lazy to install them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLegacy Posted July 27, 2009 Author Share Posted July 27, 2009 Sweet... B/C I think I may want to get some kartboys... but I am going with a cobb sts... Just wanted to know if it would conflict at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 DarkLegacy this takes about 20 minutes or so, You'll need 2 12mm wrenchs, box or socket both should fit just fine, some vinyl gloves (for the grease) some axle packing grease if you want to repack the sleeve with new grease once you're done and to remove the center console. I just did mine with a kartboy STS without doing the bushings, on saturday, Shifting is after, though stiffer, I like it, though if I were daily driving this thing I might keep the stock, as shifting the stock (With it's extra 1") is slightly easier to shift. Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtang Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 it shouldnt... your STS isnt actually physically connected to the shifter bushing... and im talking about the STS itself.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Less leverage on the shift assembly means more work shifting Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLegacy Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 cool thanks guys... I think I am going to install the sts and see how it feels... If I need the bushings, then I'll just buy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 cool thanks guys... I think I am going to install the sts and see how it feels... If I need the bushings, then I'll just buy them. Yeah that's what I would recommend. No point in spending extra money on something you may not want or ever use. Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLegacy Posted July 31, 2009 Author Share Posted July 31, 2009 Well, I installed the sts last night around 11pm... It took me about 40 minutes b/c I bought a cheap pair of snap ring pliers... and the broke... but luckily it came with extra head attachments and the extra attachment was not easy to put on... The sts feels a little more notchy and it really feels like it locks into gear... It will take a little time to get used too but overall.... I LIKE IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfaber Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Good to hear Winning the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtang Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 yea... its definitely alot notchier.... but it feels more solid to me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naimouasta Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 notchier?!? what about the ones where you can adjust the height? will it also be notchy? i've been looking at the Group A adjustable sts. i don't mind the stock height. i just want the throws to be a little shorter and more solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtang Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 mine is a cobb double adjustable sts.... shortening your throw will definitely make it nothcier... to me it feels more solid as well.... but thats my opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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