For Push Button Start Fans

[lilbrudder]

You can't just cut it out, it's part of the remote and is an active transmitter as far as I know. Meaning you'd have to give up a remote and leave it in your car at all times and also replace it's battery from time to time. Depends on your make and year.

 

 

orely? http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39085&highlight=sti+key

 

it's doesn't require batteries, it reflects a signal back to the key cylinder.

[CzarDestructo]

orely? http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39085&highlight=sti+key

 

it's doesn't require batteries, it reflects a signal back to the key cylinder.

 

Like I said, depends on the year. All the new models have the remote built into their keys. I suppose if everyone is lucky enough to have their valet parking key they could spend the time hacking that up.

 

Even that might not work on new cars because I remember there being a 'valet mode' for the alarm system in my 08.

[urs1ne]

I wish I could have this one, its teh sex!

 

http://www.engr.uconn.edu/~rdg03002/JDM_Subaru_STI-C_Key.jpg

[ninjaturtlesM35x]

subscribe. i think it can be done. pretty sure they have aftermarket kits. thats just a button

[Buru]

figure it out hehe

[JPU1]

porsche's use a similar system. the key never has to leave your pocket.

 

-walk up to car

-pull door handle once

(car confirms the key is near, doors unlock)

-pull door handle second time

-door opens

-sit

-turn the "key"(really just a switch in place of a key slot)

-car starts

 

now if you take the key away, and try to drive. as soon as you hit the brake to take it out of park, it shuts off. it's actually quite convenient.

[johnAWD]

Cut keys FTMFW.

[Buru]

Corvettes are simular to that. You just keep the fob in the pocket, walk up to car, it is unlocked. Sit in it push clutch in and push the button.

If someone comes up with a complete nice wiring harness I would pay $400 for that.

[700watts]

I'm in

[amp583]

This looks interesting...

 

http://kptechnologies.com/products.php#/18

[spec.b]

read the description... this kpt unit still requires the use of a key to turn the ignition. this is not truly a push-button ignition, just an ignition disruption switch of sorts.

[suzysube]

http://www.fastwrx.com/zepubust.html

 

Someone get this to work. good price too. to bad its just for 2002-2004 wrx's. i would have already ordered it.

[zmarko]

http://www.fastwrx.com/zepubust.html

 

Someone get this to work. good price too. to bad its just for 2002-2004 wrx's. i would have already ordered it.

You still need to put the key in the ignition, and turn it to on with that kit. It's just more work to actually start the car with that switch.

[suzysube]

You still need to put the key in the ignition, and turn it to on with that kit. It's just more work to actually start the car with that switch.

 

i understand that you still need the key. Its still pretty cool. maybe its the ricer in me. lol.

[TSiWRX]

That ZeroSports one looks really shoddy - I can't understand why a company which usually has such nice parts would make a starter switch that looks like the switch that was included in with my $10 (yes, ten) JC Whitney windshield washer/sprayer kit (which I use for my DIY TMIC sprayer).

 

My old DSM, with the Ignited starter switch, looks a hundred times better.......

[suzysube]

So say i wanted to put one in, even though i need the keys. How do i wire it?? I have wired a few things, but still a little nervous. Here is a kit i was lookin at. I know, im rice for doing this.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RED-ILLUMINATED-PUSH-BUTTON-ENGINE-START-SWITCH_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem23023d3933QQitemZ150361422131QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

[BAC5.2]

now if you take the key away, and try to drive. as soon as you hit the brake to take it out of park, it shuts off. it's actually quite convenient.

 

The first generation Nissan Murano had the RFID keys. We tried it out when I worked at a Nissan dealership.

 

You could, in practice, start the car, dump the key out the window, and drive off. It would beep, but it would drive. Nearly a dozen miles away from the remote, we turned back. We were nervous that something very bad would happen if we kept going.

 

I'd love that kind of setup on my Outback though. Keep the key in your pocket, be able to walk up to the car and have the door unlocked for you, get in and simply push a button to get started. The Lexus LS series has that. It's really convenient. Especially since you could, theoretically, disassemble the key fob and install it in a very slim package that could be kept in, say, your wallet.

[nemo]

There's almost 0 chance of retrofitting a TRUE (read: key-less, rfid) push-button start into our cars.

 

The only way to possibly do this would be to completely bypass the OEM immobilizer system and develop your own, make-shift immobilizer.

 

I remember a couple years ago, a guy from (I believe) a 350z forum hacked together a push button start system. It worked flawlessly as it was OEM. Except he still had to put the key in the ignition, turn it to "on" and then hit start. Kind of a waste, IMO. I don't know if this is the same guy: http://www.my350z.com/forum/audio-and-video/296176-first-look-kptechnologies-push-button-start.html

[PhilT]

The first generation Nissan Murano had the RFID keys. We tried it out when I worked at a Nissan dealership.

 

You could, in practice, start the car, dump the key out the window, and drive off. It would beep, but it would drive. Nearly a dozen miles away from the remote, we turned back. We were nervous that something very bad would happen if we kept going.

 

I'd love that kind of setup on my Outback though. Keep the key in your pocket, be able to walk up to the car and have the door unlocked for you, get in and simply push a button to get started. The Lexus LS series has that. It's really convenient. Especially since you could, theoretically, disassemble the key fob and install it in a very slim package that could be kept in, say, your wallet.

 

They have that on the Altimas now, I love that feature.

 

Actually it's the only thing I love about that car, the rest is garbage

[rockle3]

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1653080&highlight=push+start

[BAC5.2]

There's almost 0 chance of retrofitting a TRUE (read: key-less, rfid) push-button start into our cars.

 

The only way to possibly do this would be to completely bypass the OEM immobilizer system and develop your own, make-shift immobilizer.

 

I remember a couple years ago, a guy from (I believe) a 350z forum hacked together a push button start system. It worked flawlessly as it was OEM. Except he still had to put the key in the ignition, turn it to "on" and then hit start. Kind of a waste, IMO. I don't know if this is the same guy: http://www.my350z.com/forum/audio-and-video/296176-first-look-kptechnologies-push-button-start.html

 

You COULD jack the entire starting system out of a Lexus/Porsche/Benz/Whatever, and retro fit it. The immobilizer circuitry is stored in the lock cylinder, not the ECU.

 

I think it COULD be done, but holy crap I bet it would be expensive. You'd have to track down the FSM pages for a Lexus/whatever, find all components. Then track down a parts catalog to obtain part numbers. Then lighten your wallet at a dealer. THEN you'd have to integrate the FOB to work with the current keyless entry system and all of that.

 

It's a lot of work, but I bet it could be done with some patience.

[underground000]

if your just looking for a push start switch: it can take 3 weeks for you to get it, free ship. i dont know if you need the key, you prob still need the key chip

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.24561

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.24560

 

heres manufactures instructions

http://www.idec.com/language/english/catalog/Switches/TWSeries.pdf

 

here are some people discussing how to hook up

http://www.dealextreme.com/forums/Default.dx/sku.24561~threadid.341563

[cpetrovic01]

Is there a reason why no one has mentioned remote start? I drove a new Impala for a week that had factory remote start but it still required the key to set to the 'on' position before the automatic transmission would work. Not sure how it would work on a manual though.

 

Also, the car electronics shops in my area sell remote start systems for $150 installed. They require a key to be used within the remote start module. In the list of factory accessories for the Legacy there is a remote start system for around $400 I believe, although I think it said it only works on an auto. trans. Can't imagine it wouldn't work on a manual.

 

Why would you want push button start when you can have remote start?

[suzysube]

ill admit i want it for the bling and fun factor. im just wondering how you hook up something like that.

[cpetrovic01]

I did some searching around and found a few things that might work and keep your car relatively safe. It seems simple enough to do on paper, but not sure how it would actually end up working.

 

First step would be to hotwire your car, in a matter of speaking anyway. The module inside the key would have to be mounted close to the ignition, assuming its an rfid tag. http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Hot_Wire_Your_Car

 

Edit: My 05 2.5i didn't have a chipped key but the 09 does. What does the 05 lgt have?

 

Next you'd have run some wire from the ignition to your switch location, you'd need the 'on' and 'start' positions and the 12 volt power. Now you'll need a double pole, single (or double) throw latching and momentary switch. Meaning, you cant use just a plain old switch. Since the car has to be in the 'on' position to run (and stay running) and the 'start' position to start, it would be pretty difficult to make it work with a single pole switch without something that would disengage the starter. Of course you could always use two single pole switches to get the same effect for a fraction of the cost. Could use some sort of occupancy sensor for the 'on' position, but your car may be in the 'on' position during times you wouldn't want it to be.

 

Finally the last step would be to add some sort of security to the starting circuit. Best thing I could come up with is an rfid (or zigbee) reader that would read a contactless tag in your new key and engage the 12 volt power wire to the button(s).

 

Like I said, sounds fairly simple on paper, actually doing it may be not worth the trouble. Anything I overlooked? If anyone has some information on how the ignition module (and security) works it would help a lot.