Long Island Legacy Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Carbotech AX6 Front pads Formally the Panther Plus. I ran these on stock rotors since Late March. I Correctly bedded them in and they were great up until the pads wore down and started to grove my rotors. The pr0oblem i had was that the pads are riveted to the rotors which makes for a bad combination when you get low on pad, plus no wear indicators as you can see from the pad on the right became so worn down for some reason that all that was left was the backing plate. this totaly destroyed my rotor. I think the pads were to agressive for OEM rotors and the extra heat they made would be to great as I have had the front rotors glowing from a spirited driving session. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/creamfan/Legacy015.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/creamfan/Legacy014.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/creamfan/Legacy013.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/creamfan/Legacy009.jpg Brass Knuckles :lol: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/creamfan/Legacy008.jpg
Infamous1 Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 You should of easily heard, felt or seen that
Bulletproof4age Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 How do you go through pads in 5 months? How many track events?
Th3Franz Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 How do you go through pads in 5 months? How many track events? track pad + not getting to the appropriate temperature range on a daily basis = really fast pad wear and rotor eatage -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz
EquinnoxX Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Ouch, they looked bad when i saw them but man i didn't know they were that bad!! Guess that means its time for some more upgrades
PhilT Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 That's crazy, a daily walk around the car could have easily avoided that. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon
Long Island Legacy Posted September 12, 2008 Author Posted September 12, 2008 I knew about them being low but the $$ was tight. Anyway upgraded to Brakeswap Slotted Front Rotors and Hawk HPS all around.
robinlsb Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Ouch, they looked bad when i saw them but man i didn't know they were that bad!! Guess that means its time for some more upgrades That kind of rotor wear is caused by overheating the rotors. You have, in effect, melted material off the rotors! And cast iron melts at about 1100 degrees! Time for better rotors or BBKs and maybe even ducting:eek: "Belief does not make truth. Evidence makes truth. And belief does not make evidence."
Long Island Legacy Posted September 12, 2008 Author Posted September 12, 2008 That kind of rotor wear is caused by overheating the rotors. You have, in effect, melted material off the rotors! And cast iron melts at about 1100 degrees! Time for better rotors or BBKs and maybe even ducting:eek: They were red hot a few times.
jamal Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 That kind of rotor wear is caused by overheating the rotors. You have, in effect, melted material off the rotors! And cast iron melts at about 1100 degrees! Time for better rotors or BBKs and maybe even ducting:eek: Yeah sure that's why all the GT2 lemans rotors turn into a goopy mess at +1600f. That kind of rotor wear is caused by wearing the pads down to the backing plates and then continuing to drive on them. It doesn't matter if you have race pads or cheap crap from pep-boys.
RobY Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 cast iron melts at about 1100 degrees! Only if you are european... If you are american it melts at about 2200 degrees
robinlsb Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Yeah sure that's why all the GT2 lemans rotors turn into a goopy mess at +1600f. That kind of rotor wear is caused by wearing the pads down to the backing plates and then continuing to drive on them. It doesn't matter if you have race pads or cheap crap from pep-boys. Well, that would be true, if you could buy composite ceramic rotors or carbon rotors at Pep boys. But since you can't buy them at Pep boys, and GT2 cars use composite ceramic rotors, are you sure that you know what you are talking about? "Belief does not make truth. Evidence makes truth. And belief does not make evidence."
PhilT Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 That is completely metal on metal wear, no matter how cold the brakes are that's what you get when you have no friction material left. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon
Infamous1 Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Only if you are european... If you are american it melts at about 2200 degrees Haha yep, or these damn exhaust manifolds would of melted long ago.
fweasel Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Only if you are european... If you are american it melts at about 2200 degrees :lol: This episode had nothing to do with "track" pads. User error. ignore him, he'll go away.
robinlsb Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 That is completely metal on metal wear, no matter how cold the brakes are that's what you get when you have no friction material left. All I can say is that I have scored brakes using track pads on regular brakes, albeit not as bad as those shown is the pic. "Belief does not make truth. Evidence makes truth. And belief does not make evidence."
sirsimon Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Yeah, I considered buying Ferodo DS3500 pads when my 2500s wore out, as I've heard that they really require little time to get usably warm (just a stop or two), but they will wear out my (expensive) Alcon rotors like their is no tomorrow.
jamal Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 Well, that would be true, if you could buy composite ceramic rotors or carbon rotors at Pep boys. But since you can't buy them at Pep boys, and GT2 cars use composite ceramic rotors, are you sure that you know what you are talking about? Plenty of them use iron. prototypes and gt1 cars generally have carbon brakes though. I think my point was something else.
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